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Did you know that reprocessing a single battery pack takes 50K gallons of fresh water!? The process also takes five times more energy than the gasoline which would run the average gasoline car for 10 years.
Flywheel or liquefied AIR energy are much better alternatives for commuter vehicle energy storage.
That may or may not be the case. Energy, fuels, pollution, etc, etc are very complex issues that hardcore scientists work on.
I worked for 30 years in R&D military system development. I spent 5 years developing power supplies for DEW systems. (Directed Energy Weapons).
I helped design, build and test a 20K lbs battery power pack. It was so dangerous, we dismantled it after a few preliminary tests, because the local fire depart insisted, after a portion of it caught fire, and the toxic fumes hurt a number of people.
We replaced it with a Liquid Air viscus turbine system that worked very well.
I've done the Scientist / Engineer thang...
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But then there is the American-Leftie push for all-electric cars... without a enough generating capacity to charge them... or enough power and fresh water to remediate the toxic battery packs that weigh 2000+ lbs, leak toxins unless reprocessed, last just 18 months, and cost $15K to replace!
Did you know that reprocessing a single battery pack takes 50K gallons of fresh water!? The process also takes five times more energy than the gasoline which would run the average gasoline car for 10 years.
If we don't reprocess the dead batteries, they will pile up, leak, contaminate the ground water, and cause cancer, birth defects, and kill wildelife.
Just some food for thought about China and Investment... and a few things about what it means when pro-China Americans Criticize Capitalism.
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So, we seem to be having a bit of problems with realistic science evaluation instead of power and profit politics masquerading as science... just like the covid19 vaccine side effects...
Maybe, just maybe, a command economy is a bad idea!
The Lefties, worldwide, have much to answer for.
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The comparison here to the recent construction cost of a natural gas fueled power plant project about 200 miles
distant from this nuclear power fiasco is 9 to 1, not to mention the opportunity costs of investment between 2005 and 2022
producing no billable product until at least second quarter, 2022 and at only 50 percent output considering final half of
this expansion will not come online until a year later. -snip-
560 megawatts gas fired = $820 million max. construction costs
2250 megawatts nuclear fueled = $28 billion construction costs, and rising
Writer: Georgia's PSC setup makes Vogtle bad business for customers
State plagued by utility regulation model, Washington policy expert says
www.augustachronicle.com
July 22, 2021
"...More:With Plant Vogtle nearer to completion, Georgia Power seeks to recoup capital costs
The total price tag for the 2,250-megawatt project has now ballooned to $25 billion, with Georgia Power’s portion of the cost increasing from a $6.1 billion estimate to over $11.1 billion today. For comparison’s sake, Duke Energy built 560 megawatts of combined cycle natural gas capacity at the new Asheville, North Carolina, power plant for less than $820 million, illustrating the high opportunity cost of Georgia Power’s Vogtle adventure. And while Georgians are now all but inured to bad Vogtle news, real harm is being done: The cost to each Georgia Power household has now climbed to more than $850, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution..."
Asheville Combined Cycle Station
Duke Energy’s new 560-megawatt combined-cycle natural gas plant at the Asheville site paves a new path for cleaner and smarter energy for our’ customers.
www.duke-energy.com
Asheville Combined Cycle Station - Duke Energy
"Duke Energy's new Asheville Combined Cycle Station in Arden, N.C., is operational and capable of producing 560 megawatts of cleaner, more efficient energy to serve customers in North Carolina and South Carolina. The new station generates enough energy to serve about 450,000 homes..."
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You insult yourself every time you post.How is China an economic threat if they ****ed up capitalism, @Kurmugeon?
I just want the general picture before I insult myself with wasted time.
Both of course! Because they are deeply connected! Particularly in America at this point in time!Is this thread about state capitalism or batteries?
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