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China’s Xi rolls out the red carpet for Putin and Modi as Trump upends global relations

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India tariffs are the worst



Putin, who arrived to a red-carpet welcome in Tianjin on Sunday local time, praised the China-Russia partnership ahead of his trip as a “stabilizing force” for the world. In a written interview for Chinese state news agency Xinhua, he said they were “united in our vision of building a just, multipolar world order” – an allusion to the two countries’ efforts to revise what they see as a US-led world order unfairly stacked against them.


SCO members – which include China, Russia, India, Iran, Pakistan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan – preside over vast swaths of global energy reserves and govern some 40% of the global population.

Leaders including Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have arrived in Tianjin, and Xi has been holding a flurry of bilateral meetings with his guests since Saturday.
 
anatta said:
India tariffs are the worst



Putin, who arrived to a red-carpet welcome in Tianjin on Sunday local time, praised the China-Russia partnership ahead of his trip as a “stabilizing force” for the world. In a written interview for Chinese state news agency Xinhua, he said they were “united in our vision of building a just, multipolar world order” – an allusion to the two countries’ efforts to revise what they see as a US-led world order unfairly stacked against them.


SCO members – which include China, Russia, India, Iran, Pakistan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan – preside over vast swaths of global energy reserves and govern some 40% of the global population.

Leaders including Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have arrived in Tianjin, and Xi has been holding a flurry of bilateral meetings with his guests since Saturday.
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I don't think enough Americans understand how dangerous all of this is in terms of the economy and security. Trump and his policies are disastrous.
 
Trump peace making now includes China and India.
 
Callen said:
I don't think enough Americans understand how dangerous all of this is in terms of the economy and security. Trump and his policies are disastrous.
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it's not like the SCO is a new thing. It's expanded long before Trump.. another reason to stay out of foreign wars
But China is a growing power / Russia was forced into the "Enduring friendship" by NATO expansion (among other things)
 
anatta said:
India tariffs are the worst



Putin, who arrived to a red-carpet welcome in Tianjin on Sunday local time, praised the China-Russia partnership ahead of his trip as a “stabilizing force” for the world. In a written interview for Chinese state news agency Xinhua, he said they were “united in our vision of building a just, multipolar world order” – an allusion to the two countries’ efforts to revise what they see as a US-led world order unfairly stacked against them.


SCO members – which include China, Russia, India, Iran, Pakistan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan – preside over vast swaths of global energy reserves and govern some 40% of the global population.

Leaders including Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have arrived in Tianjin, and Xi has been holding a flurry of bilateral meetings with his guests since Saturday.
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Meanwhile:

The U.S. Wooed India for 30 Years. Trump Blew That Up in a Few Months.
 
anatta said:
it's not like the SCO is a new thing. It's expanded long before Trump.. another reason to stay out of foreign wars
But China is a growing power / Russia was forced into the "Enduring friendship" by NATO expansion (among other things)
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There had been much effort put into restoring and strengthening the US/India relationship and Trump has blown that all up. Now China is embracing them. This is not a good thing for the US in any measure.
 
anatta said:
India tariffs are the worst
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anatta said:
another reason to stay out of foreign wars
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Once again blaming this on the Ukraine War...

And not the toddler actually doing this.

Because you've also blown a gasket about the courts ruling that Trump unilaterally doing this is illegal...
 
Callen said:
I suspect it's too late for that. Modi is seriously ticked at Trump and therefore the USA. As with other countries, it is going to take a lot more than dropping tariffs to restore relationships and Trump hasn't got what that takes.
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you have to look at Indias motives. they dont want to be dwarfed by the SCO. but again using tariffs for foreign policy is just dumb
www.hudson.org

Putting US-India Trade Negotiations Back on Track

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j brown's body said:
Its a personal problem.

The Nobel Prize and a Testy Phone Call: How the Trump-Modi Relationship Unraveled President Trump’s repeated claims about having “solved” the India-Pakistan war infuriated Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India. And that was only the beginning.
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Prime Minister Modi’s fragile parliamentary coalition could face backlash if last spring’s conflict with Pakistan is portrayed as anything less than a decisive victory. Indian officials have already rejected suggestions that they were pressured into a ceasefire with Islamabad. Reversing that narrative could be politically difficult.
www.hudson.org

Putting US-India Trade Negotiations Back on Track

View PDF
www.hudson.org www.hudson.org
 
anatta said:
Prime Minister Modi’s fragile parliamentary coalition could face backlash if last spring’s conflict with Pakistan is portrayed as anything less than a decisive victory. Indian officials have already rejected suggestions that they were pressured into a ceasefire with Islamabad. Reversing that narrative could be politically difficult.
www.hudson.org

Putting US-India Trade Negotiations Back on Track

View PDF
www.hudson.org www.hudson.org
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Trump doesn't care. The survival of a country's fragile parliamentary coalition doesn't stand a chance against his need for constant accolades.
 
Well now this is just about all of Asia teaming up because of Putin-MAGA-Trump. All of Asia is nothing to sneeze at.

While Trump and MAGAs hate China and the Chinese they're totally involved in establishing their dictatorship domestically which although it's a big job is eminently doable. Their absolute focus is domestic and regional.

Taiwan is going to have to go nuclear and I expect France will be more than eager to provide for it. France is the only European country to maintain a Pacific Naval Fleet and having Taiwan as a partner will be welcome indeed. France can sell Taiwan a nuclear missile armed submarine or two and presto Taipei has its nuclear deterrent -- which the US would never do in a million years.

The far right European political parties that also hate China are well positioned for their next elections in a couple of years to counter China. The USA meanwhile only accelerates its spiraling out of control, useless to everyone and increasingly vulnerable abroad. America's enemies abroad know well the US armed forces and Trump hate each other.
 
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j brown's body said:
Meanwhile:

The U.S. Wooed India for 30 Years. Trump Blew That Up in a Few Months.
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In all fairness, I don't think I agree with the premise of the article because frankly it really isn't the case. It was Bush 2 that made genuine efforts to woo India. This was not supported by his predecessors, it was not carried forward by Obama either. One of the very few positives of Trump's first term was a thawing of relations but Biden actually blew that up weeks into his first term with a State Department kerfuffle under his watch. Trump 2.0 clearly has lost interest in India as anything other than a means to a peace prize and has completely erased what gains he made in his first term.

Our half-century-long frosty relationship with India and our concerted effort over multiple administrations by both parties to choose both Pakistan and China over them should be a bruise on our national pride and consciousness.
 
phoenix2020 said:
I agree, but I don't think Donald is the man to do it. He's made it clear that his one-dimensional thinking isn't going to yield warm bilateral relations with India.
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I agree tariffs get in the way of trade in this case
 
anatta said:
I agree tariffs get in the way of trade in this case
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The problem here is that Donald isn't interested in fostering healthy trade. He's only interested in:
- personal accolades
- accumulation of personal wealth
- golf
- sex with busty women

You'll notice that trade is not on this list. Therefore, unfortunately, his interactions with India will be related to one of the above points only, and trade won't actually enter the picture.
 
anatta said:
no they can be useful. China is the prime ex. nothing else moved those dweebs. selective tariffs
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No they didn't.....Trump didn't do selective
 
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