Skeptic Bob
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You still have to support your child. I suggest using contraceptives.
Or better yet don't sleep with a women you don't want to get pregnant.
Nope. Once the deed is done it is too late.
You should have opted out before or taken better precautions.
Which is why both parents are expected to support said child.
It is *ostensibly* for the benefit of the child. The egg donor could easily spend the money on nose candy.
So, in the scenario, is the woman working and supporting the child as well?
(Not that it matters that much:2razz
Nonsense, utter nonsense, this should and could not become law because it is literally Bull Crap.
She has to pay him back for them having a child :lamo
Promotes personal responsibility :lamo Sure, except the personal responsibility of the man who made her pregnant.
Promotes consequences for an action? What action would that be then? The action of how dipstick made a woman pregnant by having sex with her? Or the action of the sperm meeting an egg and the egg embedding itself? That action? Or the action where she thinks abortion is a sin and not has one? That action? Or the fact that a judges orders him to pay support to the child he made possible? That action?
So hell no, that is in no way fair, logical, honest, in accordance with law or reality. Any lawmaker who tries to bring such a law should be laughed out of congress by his colleagues, then have him be recalled in a special election and ceremonially kicked out of office and normal society.
Also, the child support he paid went to the child and stands into no comparison to the actual cost of raising a child, he should feel lucky he got away that cheaply.
It is certainly is relavant.
He would be paying child support because he decided to have sex and ended up becoming a father.
His responsibility is to the child not to the mother. No child no payment
Man doesn't wear condom in this scenario I am assuming. I am also assuming this is a pro-abortion argument.
Man cannot throw his kid on the rest of society to take care of.
This promotes personal responsibility.
Promotes consequences of actions.
A man always has an option, to think with his head or his little head. When he thinks with his little head , it is no excuse for opting out of whatever he foolishly obligated his DNA and pockets to deal with. But a coward ducks, runs and hides. There's no justification for a coward's actions, or justification for not standing up to the responsibilities he created, and he gets no sympathy when he whines about the results. It takes two to tango. If one doesn't like the dance, live like a wallflower and converse with handgelica, his first experience.
No no no. Bodhi gets like this every so often.
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They chose to have kids or get the women they were with pregnant.
Bodi's argument is that he should be able to sleep around and if he gets someone pregnant not his issue.
It is pretty much the epitome of a lack of personal responsibility.
He goes further to argue that he didn't get pregnant the that he had nothing to do with it.
His lack of biology knowledge is amazing.
He like other men have to pay child support
You are ignoring the fact that she did not abort a child she could not afford...
Who says she could not afford a child? People have children all the time they can hardly afford but still make happen. A woman can afford a child but the father of that child also has responsibilities and financial burdens he has to carry for that child and that is called child support. And your fantasy law proposal is baseless and ridiculous in its entirety.
Goose, gander. Both parties, not just one, should get that second chance.
You are just saying how it is now... and no... it is not done. She can abort.
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.
She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.
Child cared for.
Promotes personal responsibility.
Promotes consequences for an action.
This is a new thought for me and will evolve.
This could and should become law.
Men don't make women pregnant and dont choose to force a child on society... women do.
Yes. For kids we chose to have during marriage. :roll:
What an idiotic post. Doesn't factor in any of the actual argument. :lol:
Her responsibility is to not have a child she can't afford to raise on her own...
Woman gets pregnant.
Man does not want child (no opt out in this argument).
Woman has baby anyway.
Man pays 18 years of child support.
At 18 woman is put on a Payback plan to pay the man back because of her choice to have a child he did not want. She spends the next 20 years or whatever paying him back for her choice.
She would not be eligible for any government assistance until she pays off her debt.
Child cared for.
Promotes personal responsibility.
Promotes consequences for an action.
This is a new thought for me and will evolve.
This could and should become law.
or just stop being a dead beat dad and dont **** any one if you dont want to risk it
again you can see here his utter ignorance in how biology works.
so explain to us bodhi how women get pregnant without men.
I want everyone here to see your response to this.
Yep. if you didn't want the responsibility for paying child support then you should
have stated up front you didn't want them or better yet gone and gotten yourself snipped
and clipped and informed her of that. there are ways to take care of said issues.
so you had kids and are now complaining of having to support them.
it is called responsibility. you know that thing you mentioned in your OP.
If you never wanted kids which it sounds like you don't then you should have taken
the needed measures to stop that from happening
actually it was a great post and pretty much destroys your entire argument and it deals very much with the
actual argument.
Goose, gander. Both parties, not just one, should get that second chance.
His responsibility is father childern if he doesn't want any
Totally separate issues. Here's the timeline:
Man & woman choose to have sex - joint responsibility for outcome
Man chooses whether to deposit his sperm into woman - bodily autonomy, full control, opportunity to prevent pregnancy
Man & woman conceive child - joint responsibility for outcome
Woman chooses whether to abort - bodily autonomy, man on the hook EITHER WAY, either for 1/2 cost of abortion, or 1/2 of first 18 years
Child is born - joint responsibility for outcome.
Teach this in school, and be done with it. And be a ****ing adult.
That doesn't address the argument of her paying him back for her choice...
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