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I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - VoxThe Chilcot report, the UK government’s official report on the catastrophic decision to invade Iraq, was released on Wednesday morning, seven years after it was initially convened. The report delivers a pretty devastating verdict on the war, concluding that Saddam Hussein posed no imminent threat to the West and war was avoidable.
But from an American point of view, the most striking part of the report is how foreseeable the disaster that unfolded after the invasion was.
When you read the British government’s intelligence assessments, they predict, plus or minus a few details, exactly what happened after the war. The UK had ample warning that Iraq would collapse after the invasion and make the problem of terrorism worse — but it went to war anyway.
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While the UK government made a huge number of mistakes before the war, the takeaway from Chilcot is clear: It’s America’s fault. The disaster in Iraq was not just foreseeable but, in the case of the UK, actually foreseen. The United States just went ahead with the war anyway. Though Britain screwed up, this is truly America’s shame.
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
But...but...its Obamas fault
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
A second take away is that Trump is on the right side of history.
Really? I was not happy about the first, and completely opposed to the second.
I've been damning this for decades. I didn't need any report to know it was a mistake. :shrug:
You dont get it, the thing that has taken this long to get is the elite ADMITTING that they screwed the pooch. Kinda like how they denied for about a year that we were in the Great Recession.
You dont get it, the thing that has taken this long to get is the elite ADMITTING that they screwed the pooch. Kinda like how they denied for about a year that we were in the Great Recession.
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
A second take away is that Trump is on the right side of history.
Words are all they are, will those that got us into that cluster f*** be held accoubtable, nope. He sits in a nice home in Houston collecting his gov pension. What an idiot, thats what happens when you elect a fratboy. Shame for the rest of the world Bush2 did not stay an obnoxious drunk and in the bar.
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
A second take away is that Trump is on the right side of history.
Kindly dont dismiss the importance of communication, and the language that drives it.
Civilization lives and dies on the back of the quality of our communication.
And as well on how well we learn our lessons.
Seriously.
From what I have seen, the report contains no surprises, nothing new of any importance and no reason why to assume that the invasion was illegitimate or illegal. It only points out that it would have probably been better to wait a little longer and that the UK should have been better prepared. But otherwise? Did you see anything?
Really? I was not happy about the first, and completely opposed to the second.
I've been damning this for decades. I didn't need any report to know it was a mistake. :shrug:
Nice thought, thought we would have learnt our lesson after Vietnam, nope.
First BREXIT, then next PRESIDENT TRUMP?
THe leaders losing their followers has consequences.
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
A second take away is that Trump is on the right side of history.
That is quite true. The states have almost all lost large amounts of legitimacy and the elites are handling it badly. The worst about the handling is the lack of explanations and the use of populisms instead.
Well, I think we did for a good decade at least, then we forgot again. THese major lessons should stick for at least a generation, probably two, so we are not doing too good are we.......
I thought we were going to be welcome as liberators. That it would be quick and easy. I could have sworn I saw something like "Mission Accomplished" somewhere.
The mission was accomplished. The Problem was that the Iraqis missed the best chance they have ever had at freedom and civil peace.
I read the UK’s huge Iraq War report. It’s even more damning than you think. - Vox
THe real take away: DONT FOLLOW THE USA IN THEIR IDIOCY!
A second take away is that Trump is on the right side of history.
Talking about the loss of legitimacy of rule as the leaders/elite use lies and deceptions in the relentless drive towards their visions of UTOPIA is a bridge too far @2016..... too many heads will explode.
And lets be clear, the invasion of Iraq was all about utopia building.
BABY STEPS.
Wrong !! Bush2, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice screwed up the post invasion. That is a fact, no spin can change that.
That part of the world does not want democracy, its been proven over and over again, let them deal with there own issues there own way, and stop shoving our way of life down there throats.
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