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Nobody is disputing that the system needs change. I spent countless hours working to change the system from the inside and came up against a solid administrative wall of HELL NO. So what system do you want and why don't we do it?
Would you call THAT school district successful? You know...the one we're all debating about?
I want a system in which teachers are a LOT more autonomous. I want teachers to be free to teach.
How can a teacher, someone who's job it is to inspire their students to think about a particular subject, be happy about their job, when any inspiration THEY have about is, more or less, strictly forbidden? All think all this stink about pay is actually more about job satisfaction, which is lacking, because, frankly, how COULD anyone, working in such an environment, be happy about it?
I agree, not being able to read curtails one's ability to learn anything else in life. However, just because 20% of the students in school can't read, is no reason to strip away the learning opportunities of the other 80%.
Many students are indeed successful. Some are not. That is the way the system is set up to be.
I agree, not being able to read curtails one's ability to learn anything else in life. However, just because 20% of the students in school can't read, is no reason to strip away the learning opportunities of the other 80%.
Interesting theory. Do you have anything to back it up?
Could you provide the stats on those expenses please?
Chicago Now said:■Instructional Expenditure Per Pupil: $7,946
■Operational Expenditure Per Pupil: $13,078
Define "some". As it pertains to the chicago schools.
Many students are indeed successful. Some are not. That is the way the system is set up to be.
See above, at $21,024 per student ther is no reason for them to not have EVERY educational opportunity in the world given to them.
An in state college tuition averages just $423.00 more than that ... you cannot tell me that it is a lack of funding.
Who said 20% couldn't read?Only 20% of 8th Graders test at grade level for reading . . . only 21% of 8th Graders test at grade level for math.
I do not have the statistics.
Who said 20% couldn't read?Only 20% of 8th Graders test at grade level for reading . . . only 21% of 8th Graders test at grade level for math.
Sure thing.
Chicago Public Schools By The Numbers | The Windy City YR
Per student expenditure is $21,024.
I'm not. I believe for that kind of money, I can hire a private teacher to come to my HOUSE, and teach my kids, on MY schedule.
Your link - to a young republicans site - fails to cite where these stats came from.
So then you have no idea of chicago school teachers are successful, by any measure, or not.
That has always been my take on vouchers, they take SOME but not all of the money for a student, and you create a market in which competition improves outcomes, and there is money left over to apply to the broken schools.
until they can compete with the private ones.
If the rate for those failing to graduate is 40% as some have cited that must mean that 60% are indeed graduating. That is a clear majority.
So, then...success, in your eyes?
For the nation, or for chicago?
That seems awfully bad, and I'm from South Carolina....which is not noted for educational excellence, lol.
My point remains, however. We should NOT force our better students to step down a peg, just because they are surrounded by idiots....be those idiots bad teachers, or illiterate 8th graders. That hurts us just as bad, or worse.
It is as I described. Many are successful and graduate - a minority does not.
It is as I described. Many are successful and graduate - a minority does not.
Which is why vouchers are a great idea.
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