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I think it's as relevant as saying that baby could grow up to be these men:

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Slippery Slope said:
I think it's as relevant as saying that baby could grow up to be these men
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Not could grow up. DID grow up.

I thought it was interesting that they tried to tie in Obama with pro life.
 
RightOfCenter said:
I don't believe that is actual footage of President Obama.
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I don't think it is either.

The point is to pull heartstrings.

Do you think it worked?
 
DGomez said:
I don't think it is either.

The point is to pull heartstrings.

Do you think it worked?
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Not with anyone that was already pro-choice. It probably pulled pro-lifer's heartstrings, but you've already got them.
 
It's an ad to make Obama look like a hypocrite.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
It's an ad to make Obama look like a hypocrite.
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The man is rather scary into the whole abortion topic. He's pro abortion. As in, going out of his way to offer incentives for people to get an abortion.
 
SWM said:
Who's composition is that? I've never heard it before, it's pretty.
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It's just a bunch of arpeggio chords. Classic warm and fuzzy music technique. Probably made on some guy's computer.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Not with anyone that was already pro-choice. It probably pulled pro-lifer's heartstrings, but you've already got them.
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I don't really respond to things that try to pull my heartstrings on purpose. They always come across as cheesy to me.

I just find it ironic that the man who is pushing abortion so hard probably would not exist if the world was as he wanted it.
 
DGomez said:
I don't really respond to things that try to pull my heartstrings on purpose. They always come across as cheesy to me.

I just find it ironic that the man who is pushing abortion so hard probably would not exist if the world was as he wanted it.
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Really? And here all this time I thought that he was pro-choice not pro-aborting every baby that doesn't have a daddy. The woman can decide whether or not she wishes to have the baby. That doesn't mean that every single pregnant woman is going to choose abortion.
 
DGomez said:
It's just a bunch of arpeggio chords. Classic warm and fuzzy music technique. Probably made on some guy's computer.
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Oh yeah, now that I really listen to it I hear it's just two chords repeated. Someone probably put it together in 3 minutes. That second chord kind of struck me for some reason.
 
DGomez said:
I don't really respond to things that try to pull my heartstrings on purpose. They always come across as cheesy to me.

I just find it ironic that the man who is pushing abortion so hard probably would not exist if the world was as he wanted it.
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That's quite a leap. :roll: It's akin to saying that if abortion had been more prevalent in 1889 the world might not have had Hitler... :2wave:
 
Slippery Slope said:
That's quite a leap. :roll: It's akin to saying that if abortion had been more prevalent in 1889 the world might not have had Hitler... :2wave:
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are you comparing the president to hitler?
 
Slippery Slope said:
Are you being obtuse just to bait me? Maybe perfidious is a better term than obtuse, in this instance.
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does it count as perfidious baiting if it's a joke? anyway I'm very sorry, please disregard it.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Really? And here all this time I thought that he was pro-choice not pro-aborting every baby that doesn't have a daddy. The woman can decide whether or not she wishes to have the baby. That doesn't mean that every single pregnant woman is going to choose abortion.
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No he's pro-abortion. Normally I don't quibble about semantics like that but in this case one must. He's not just pro-choice in that he wants to make abortion a legal option. Obama goes out of his way to try and make abortion super easy for any woman to access and would probably offer incentives to get the abortion. That's messed up, imho.
 
SWM said:
Oh yeah, now that I really listen to it I hear it's just two chords repeated. Someone probably put it together in 3 minutes. That second chord kind of struck me for some reason.
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I,IV,V7 chords played in succession like that always evoke warm and fuzzy feelings in humans. It's an interesting phenomenon. Most "modern" church music has a piano part doing that. It's also why most people like the Pachelbel cannon in D. You should youtube the piece "Zadok the Priest."
 
Slippery Slope said:
That's quite a leap. :roll: It's akin to saying that if abortion had been more prevalent in 1889 the world might not have had Hitler... :2wave:
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Gotta take the bad apples with the good. Either accept that new babies could be the next rocket scientist or dictator, or don't have any babies at all and just let the human race die out.
 
DGomez said:
Gotta take the bad apples with the good. Either accept that new babies could be the next rocket scientist or dictator, or don't have any babies at all and just let the human race die out.
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Then I think there should be one of those propaganda pieces for banning automobiles since, who knows how many Obamas we missed out on due to car wrecks. IOW it's a ridiculous premise.
 
Slippery Slope said:
Then I think there should be one of those propaganda pieces for banning automobiles since, who knows how many Obamas we missed out on due to car wrecks. IOW it's a ridiculous premise.
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That goes into considering the acceptable risks. If you wish to use the driving analogy.... when a person drives they view the possibility of a car accident as an acceptable risk. A person who has sexual intercourse should view the possibility of a child an "acceptable risk." Otherwise it's like telling the car company "well you should have stopped me from driving!"
 
DGomez said:
No he's pro-abortion. Normally I don't quibble about semantics like that but in this case one must. He's not just pro-choice in that he wants to make abortion a legal option. Obama goes out of his way to try and make abortion super easy for any woman to access and would probably offer incentives to get the abortion. That's messed up, imho.
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So, in your opinion, he's not prochoice because he wants all choices easily accessible, and because he "would probably"- again, in your opinion- offer "incentives" to encourage people to choose one option over another?
"Would probably" if what?
He's the friggin' president of the United States, for cripe sake. He can do whatever the hell he wants. So who's stopping him from offering these "incentives", in your opinion?

I agree that Obama is strongly prochoice; it's one of the reasons he had my vote, and the vote of everyone I personally know.
With his election, the United States sent the anti-choice contingent a strong message: we're not down with you.
Weirdly, they really don't seem to get it yet.
But I trust that in time, they will.
 
DGomez said:
I,IV,V7 chords played in succession like that always evoke warm and fuzzy feelings in humans. It's an interesting phenomenon. Most "modern" church music has a piano part doing that. It's also why most people like the Pachelbel cannon in D. You should youtube the piece "Zadok the Priest."
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Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that's not a I IV V progression. The second chord sounds like it may just be the same thing as the first but with the bass note one chromatic step up.

I don't know, wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong about something like this. I'm going to try to pick it out.

EDIT: Also, we will have to disagree on Pachelbel's canon. It does have a IV and a V in it (but no V7 I think(I'm looking at the chords in front of me, not like I know them by heart)), but that's not what gives it its pachelbeliness. The melody is what makes it what it is. I bet many people wouldn't even recognize it just by its chords.

EDIT EDIT: No I'm wrong about pachelbel's canon. If you play the melody with the root notes of the chords, that's what makes it distinct. So it's sort of in between. The melody without the bass notes is not as distinct. Kind of hard to say.
 
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