SirPwn4lot
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As the right goes further to the right they become blinded to what actually is left and what is center. Bill Clinton governed from the middle and Obama has angered many of more progressive supporters who are now offering criticism of his moderate positions.
It is a sad commentary on how far to the right some people and organizations have gone that they confuse the center or slightly left of center with far left.
the current dem leadership-the leadership that got bitched slapped a month ago but is whining about Obama now (who is moving right to bolster his waning re-election chances for 2012) is the most leftwing we have ever seen. and the problem is, many on this board crave outright eurosocialism and they pretend that far left is communism or anarcho-syndicalism when in the context of America, welfare-socialism is far left for our society
the current dem leadership-the leadership that got bitched slapped a month ago but is whining about Obama now (who is moving right to bolster his waning re-election chances for 2012) is the most leftwing we have ever seen. and the problem is, many on this board crave outright eurosocialism and they pretend that far left is communism or anarcho-syndicalism when in the context of America, welfare-socialism is far left for our society
Thank you for making my point Turtle. I can always count on you to be a beacon of right wing intolerance and greed as the perfect illustration of the dangerous swing to the radical right.
you are the greedy one, it is not I who goes around demanding that the government take someone else's wealth for my political ends
I'm not the one advocating the virtual destruction of the middle class so that the top can get even more insane wealth than it's gained in the recession.
radical right seems to be the current talking point of the dems these days. actually it is the dems who are far more leftwing than they were a few years ago.
the gulf increases due to a party that wants lots of dependent pawns and has enacted 70+ years of policies that create such pawnage. Not because the "rich" aren't taxed enough.
I do not know what country you think you inhabit. In the America I live in ALL citizens have rights. And that obviously does not please you.
To hand-out liberals, 'radical right' means people who dare believe that government (and others) doesnt exist to serve them, that hard work SHOULD be rewarded, that taxes should be collected to operate the government and affairs of state and that they should be able to keep income they have EARNED.
Yes that makes logical sense. If someone has a few grand in the bank and his insurance doesn't cover his surgery what is he supposed to do? Take out LOANS for life saving surgery?
To hand-out liberals, 'radical right' means people who dare believe that government (and others) doesnt exist to serve them, that hard work SHOULD be rewarded, that taxes should be collected to operate the government and affairs of state and that they should be able to keep income they have EARNED.
I think maybe liberals mistakenly think there is only so much wealth to go around so it must be taken from the rich so the poor won't be poor. They want to take pieces of someone else's pie instead of baking their own whole pie, when all the ingredients are there. (Thanks John Stossel)
He said something like that.
Well.... not really.
Even far-right conservatives want some taxation. I know very little who want 0% tax in any area. So really they don't think people "should be able to keep income they have earned".
Turtledude is honest in this regard, and I like that.
It took a while but i thinks i has finally seen the light!! More tax is better!
So here is the plan:
- Next year we raise the taxes on the rich to 100%. That oughta bring the deficit down.
- So the following year the "rich" will all be broke so they won't have to pay any taxes. That should make them happy.
- And since those former rich bastards are now broke and unemployed, they will be collecting Unemployment Benefits (which Pelosi assures us in the BEST way to inject money into the economy!!!)
Lordy. This plan looks like a WIN/WIN situation for everybody....!!!!!
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the right to life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness
To hand-out liberals, 'radical right' means people who dare believe that government (and others) doesnt exist to serve them, that hard work SHOULD be rewarded, that taxes should be collected to operate the government and affairs of state and that they should be able to keep income they have EARNED.
i looked and looked and looked barb but I just cannot locate those "rights' in my copy of the US Constitution. Am I missing it?
Are you saying we don't have those inalianable rights?
What country do you live in? One where healthcare, a job, a house, an education, and food is a right?
Wait, what does the government exist for, if not to serve the people?
What is the threshold where you would stop extending the Unemployment Benefits? 2 years? 3 years? 10 years?
Not to sound judgmental, but if someone cannot find a job in 2 years I am suspicious about just how hard they are looking....:shrug:
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Are you saying we don't have those inalianable rights?
What country do you live in? One where healthcare, a job, a house, an education, and food is a right?
You seem to be consumed with you own impression of how valuable you are to the job market. If you can't find a ****ing job in two ****ing years maybe you need to rethink how precious you really are. 90% of the population has managed to find work...
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You seem to be consumed with you own impression of how valuable you are to the job market. If you can't find a ****ing job in two ****ing years maybe you need to rethink how precious you really are. 90% of the population has managed to find work...
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You mean 90% haven't lost their jobs....
5% is acceptable to our system, so that leaves 5% are the newly unemployed.
Pray that you are never asked to be part of that 5%....
I find this interesting. people are concerned when a small group of a few percentage points lose jobs but when 5% of the tax payers are to be hit with a tax increase people say its not all that important because so few people suffer a tax hike.
Because when people lose their job it becomes hard to survive. Often times they can fall into poverty and have their houses foreclosed. When the top 5% of the rich get taxed, they barely notice.
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