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I've already told you why any answer is irrelevant to this, so why do you persist on asking it?
If I were to say "no," and you pounced on it with "blah blah blah blah self-righteous blather blah blah blah blah," my answer will simply be:...
...Now, you've never provided an actual "basic liberty" being deprived, and that which you feebly offered was easily swatted away, so want to try again?
why are you refusing to answer the question?
its a very simple question: do you believe a religious oriented hospital or clinic should have the right to refuse treatment to someone based on religious objections?
very simple question....I know you can do it. I believe in you.
FAIL.
you don't get to ask me any more questions about anything, until you answer my question.
Fail? How did I fail? You simply ignored my response.
Or you'll tell your mommy?
again, you're evading the question. Let's try this a little different huh?
should a Jewish hospital, or a Muslim hospital, or a Hindu health clinic in the USA, have the right to refuse treatment to a gay...or a Buddhist...due to their religious objections?
Answer mine first, sweetie. Which "basic liberty" is being deprived?
This means automatic excommunication.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ion-st-josephs-hospital-save-womans-life.html
Which can be resolved the next day through confession.
j-mac
excommunication is temporary?
Which can be resolved the next day through confession.
j-mac
temporary? no, but there are steps you can take to regain your acceptence within the church. I just outlined one.
j-mac
...1) It's a moot point, because a Catholic hospital, consistent with its beliefs, wouldn't do so. "Love thy neighbor" is the rule, as is "love the sinner, hate the sin." If you think Catholics, as a matter of doctrine, would turn away a gay man for being gay, then it's you who have a tremendous religious bigotry, based in ignorance.....
Why do we feel we have to impose this on a group of people who don't want it? We know better for them?
I couldn't agree more. Why we have to impose religous doctrine on non-Catholics who happen to work at a Catholic hospital is beyond reason. No one is being forced to take birth control are they?
so you're not gonna answer the question, after having told me to answer your question first?
how dishonest of you.
yeah, you got me to answer your question first...only to have you cut & run from answering my question to you.
how honest of you.
a Catholic institution would never turn away a gay or a Jew, seeking help?
tell that to the Jews of Poland, 1938-1944.
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I never heard of that before.. So excommunication is temporary?
Why would a Catholic have to confess for saving a life?
do you think a Catholic-run hospital should have the right to refuse treatment to a gay, or a Jew, or a Muslim, on religious grounds?
Alright, so we have established that no hospital, whether religious or not, should have the right to turn away a sick or injured person, simply based on their sexuality or religion. Glad to hear it.
Meanwhile, which medical services should a religious-oriented establishment not have to pay for?
condoms, the pill, abortion, treatment of bris complications?
and even if the money is TOTALLY fronted by the HMO, its still not enough?
what would be enough? literally forbidding the HMO from providing such services or medication?
where does it end?
Giving the Church the option of having a plan that doesn't force things they find goes against their teachings....
My Mother, Rest her soul, was a Nurse at a Catholic hospital for my entire life, and I have NEVER heard of that happening.
j-mac
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