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Carson compares abortion to slavery - CNNPolitics.com

"Think about this. During slavery -- and I know that's one of those words you're not supposed to say, but I'm saying it -- during slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave. Anything that they chose to do," Carson said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

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Carson said he opposes abortion in nearly all instances -- including in pregnancies resulting from rape and incest.
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Carson responded, "In the ideal situation, the mother should not believe that the baby is her enemy and should not be looking to terminate the baby. You know, things are set up in such a way that the person in the world who has the greatest interest in protecting the baby is the mother. We've allowed the purveyors of the vision to make mothers think that that baby is their enemy and that they have a right to kill it. Can you see how perverted that line of thinking is?"
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:shock::shock::shock:

And all you have to do is go and look up the many stories of people who have led very useful lives who are the result of rape or incest
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oh really, like who, Dr Carson?


Does this guy have dementia? how can he really hold these views?
 
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Wow, like, everything is slavery to that guy.

Btw, you forgot to append "The Neurosugeon" to Ben Carson's name.
 
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The man really needs to stop making analogies to Hitler and slavery. He is Godwinning his own campaign
 
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Not looking good for the republican clown show..
 
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The GOP has become a ****ty joke that never ends.
 
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The further politics goes both left and right, the more everyone else will get alienated.

But in this case Carson is finding new lows, and ridiculous arguments to get him there.
 
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Well IMO only fellow fundamentalist Christians and some Black citizens who will vote for him simply because of his race actually care now. His views are pretty extreme.

At best he will be the VP candidate, if he makes it to the convention at all. :shrug:
 
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if you outlaw abortions, then only outlaws will have abortions
 
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That's good, since the two are directly comparable.

SlevinKelevra said:
Does this guy have dementia? how can he really hold these views?
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Of course, one must have "dementia" to oppose killing or enslaving other innocent human beings.

:roll:

Oh wait, no, that's not dementia, that's a moral compass. They're useful things to have.
 
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JayDubya said:
That's good, since the two are directly comparable.



Of course, one must have "dementia" to oppose killing or enslaving other innocent human beings.

:roll:

Oh wait, no, that's not dementia, that's a moral compass. They're useful things to have.
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:lol:
 
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I vote we outlaw pro lifers. And Republicans. And Democrats. And feminists.

i'm tired of their rhetorical hateful drivel.

They are all detrimental to a free society and have no real morality to them.
 
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All he is saying is that slaves were not considered to be humans really because their masters owned them and could do pretty much whatever they liked with them. Which is not exactly true with US slavery but it was true back in Rome when a master could kill their slave if they wanted to and not have to justify it in any way. So this is a bit like how a mother can kill a life. The unborn baby is not considered human or a life and the mother has the right to kill it. It is not a terrible metaphor at all.

I support abortion but I get the metaphor.
 
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I got your slavery. It's forcing a large swath of the population, by virtue of their biology, to submit themselves to government persecution, prosecution, economic and emotional hardship under penalty of a prison sentence. That's far more akin to slavery than abortion.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
Carson compares abortion to slavery - CNNPolitics.com



:shock::shock::shock:



oh really, like who, Dr Carson?


Does this guy have dementia? how can he really hold these views?
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Maybe he's tired of blacks being disproportionately aborted. Strange that leftwingers, who purport to be black advocates, don't feel the same way. They sure seem concerned about the disproportionate representation in prisons.
 
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American said:
Maybe he's tired of blacks being disproportionately aborted. Strange that leftwingers, who purport to be black advocates, don't feel the same way. They sure seem concerned about the disproportionate representation in prisons.
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Clearly the solution is to force all women to carry their pregnancies to term, thereby solving the economic turmoil and racial discrimination which disproportionately impact blacks. What black women need is less rights and control over their lives, not more. Am I right?
 
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Amadeus said:
I got your slavery. It's forcing a large swath of the population, by virtue of their biology, to submit themselves to government persecution, prosecution, economic and emotional hardship under penalty of a prison sentence. That's far more akin to slavery than abortion.
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Sure, not killing your own kid and having to be a responsible parent to the kids you created through your own entirely intentional, kid-creating act, is "slavery."

Makes perfect sense. :roll:


Nope. But reducing human beings to property to be killed on a whim is absolutely 1:1 directly comparable to slavery.
 
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This guy has said a lot of crazy things. I am surprised anyone even listens to him anymore. Just another nasty attack on women and our rights to control our bodies and lives.
 
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JayDubya said:
Sure, not killing your own kid and having to be a responsible parent to the kids you created through your own entirely intentional, kid-creating act, is "slavery."
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You have to do mental, moral, and even Biblical gymnastics to equate a multi-celluar diploid to a human being.
 
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Amadeus said:
You have to do mental, moral, and even Biblical gymnastics to equate a multi-celluar diploid to a human being.
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Nope.

We are multicellular organisms of the species Homo sapiens. Our cells, aside from our gametes, are diploid. You are very much so a "multi-cellular diploid."

As sexually reproducing organisms, our lifespan begins as a single cell - the zygote stage of life.

At any stage of life, however, from zygote until death, you are still referring to an organism of the species Homo sapiens - a "human being."

Knowing scientific fact is in no way "gymnastics."
 
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"Just another nasty attack on women"

On what planet? :roll:
 
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JayDubya said:
Nope.

We are multicellular organisms of the species Homo sapiens. Our cells, aside from our gametes, are diploids.

As sexually reproducing organisms, our lifespan begins as a single cell - the zygote stage of life.

At any stage of life, you are still referring to an organism of the species Homo sapiens - a "human being."

Knowing scientific fact is in no way "gymnastics."
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No, you specifically said kid. As in child. Baby. Infant. Which refers to a developed post-birth human being. A single cell, or even multiple cells, are not human beings. Just as a drop of my blood is not a human being.
 
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On this planet, unfortunately.
 
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