Carbon Crash

[calamity]

No war, no recession, no previous pandemic has had such a dramatic impact on emissions of CO2 over the past century as Covid-19 has in a few short months.

Multiple sources indicate we are now living through an unrivalled drop in carbon output.

Pretty amazing what a little social distancing can achieve.

 

[PoS]

Good idea: once the pandemic ends, the eco nuts can lock themselves in their houses forever while the rest of the world goes back to normal. That should balance things out.

 

[longview]

Pretty amazing what a little social distancing can achieve.

It will be interesting to see when the drop in emissions, is actually reflected in the CO2 levels.
Global Monitoring Laboratory - Carbon Cycle Greenhouse Gases
The trend looks like a normal year so far.
2018 12 2018.958 409.07 409.07 409.75 30
2019 1 2019.042 410.83 410.83 410.52 26
2019 2 2019.125 411.75 411.75 410.89 27
2019 3 2019.208 411.97 411.97 410.48 28
2019 4 2019.292 413.33 413.33 410.50 27
2019 5 2019.375 414.65 414.65 411.18 28
2019 6 2019.458 413.93 413.93 411.59 27
2019 7 2019.542 411.74 411.74 411.39 25
2019 8 2019.625 409.95 409.95 411.86 29
2019 9 2019.708 408.54 408.54 412.15 29
2019 10 2019.792 408.52 408.52 411.95 29
2019 11 2019.875 410.25 410.25 412.25 26
2019 12 2019.958 411.76 411.76 412.44 31
2020 1 2020.042 413.39 413.39 413.07 29
2020 2 2020.125 414.11 414.11 413.26 28
2020 3 2020.208 414.51 414.51 413.02 26
2020 4 2020.292 416.21 416.21 413.38 28

I know that we are in the increasing phase of the year,
but 4/2019 413.33 ppm
4/2020 416.21 ppm
a delta of a little less than 3 ppm, roughly the same for the last decade or two.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Pretty amazing what a little social distancing can achieve.

Both country and city leaders as well as leading economists are acknowledging the need for and the great benefits of a green recovery.

"We therefore strongly welcome that the Heads of States and Governments on 26 March invited the Commission to start working on a comprehensive EU recovery plan integrating the green transition and digital transformation.

We call on the Commission to use the European Green Deal as a framework for this exercise and thereby to keep momentum by implementing its initiatives.

The Green Deal constitutes a new growth strategy for the EU, which is able to deliver on the twin benefits of stimulating economies and creating jobs while accelerating the green transition in a cost efficient way.

For example, the objective of climate neutrality by 2050 as well as a strong policy framework ensures a stable and forward-looking investment environment for Europe’s businesses, which is an essential precondition for green growth and job creation."

European Green Deal must be central to a resilient recovery after Covid-19

"Mayors from cities in Europe, the US and Africa held talks this week to coordinate their efforts to support a low-carbon, sustainable recovery from the crisis as national governments begin to implement huge economic stimulus packages.

Many cities have already announced measures, from hundreds of miles of new bike lanes in Milan and Mexico City to widening pavements and pedestrianising neighbourhoods in New York and Seattle."

City leaders aim to shape green recovery from coronavirus crisis | Environment | The Guardian

"Our new research, based on surveys of more than 200 of the world’s most senior economists and economic officials, suggests that spending this money on climate-friendly “green” policy initiatives could not only help shift the world closer to a net-zero emissions pathway, but could also offer the best economic returns for government spending."

Leading economists: Green coronavirus recovery also better for economy

 

[PoS]

Both country and city leaders as well as leading economists are acknowledging the need for and the great benefits of a green recovery.

"We therefore strongly welcome that the Heads of States and Governments on 26 March invited the Commission to start working on a comprehensive EU recovery plan integrating the green transition and digital transformation.

We call on the Commission to use the European Green Deal as a framework for this exercise and thereby to keep momentum by implementing its initiatives.

The Green Deal constitutes a new growth strategy for the EU, which is able to deliver on the twin benefits of stimulating economies and creating jobs while accelerating the green transition in a cost efficient way.

For example, the objective of climate neutrality by 2050 as well as a strong policy framework ensures a stable and forward-looking investment environment for Europe’s businesses, which is an essential precondition for green growth and job creation."

European Green Deal must be central to a resilient recovery after Covid-19

"Mayors from cities in Europe, the US and Africa held talks this week to coordinate their efforts to support a low-carbon, sustainable recovery from the crisis as national governments begin to implement huge economic stimulus packages.

Many cities have already announced measures, from hundreds of miles of new bike lanes in Milan and Mexico City to widening pavements and pedestrianising neighbourhoods in New York and Seattle."

City leaders aim to shape green recovery from coronavirus crisis | Environment | The Guardian

"Our new research, based on surveys of more than 200 of the world’s most senior economists and economic officials, suggests that spending this money on climate-friendly “green” policy initiatives could not only help shift the world closer to a net-zero emissions pathway, but could also offer the best economic returns for government spending."

Leading economists: Green coronavirus recovery also better for economy

So you care more about green new deals than people's lives? Not surprising.

 

[calamity]

So you care more about green new deals than people's lives? Not surprising.

Fewer people is never a bad thing. Highways traffic has been exceptionally pleasant these past few months.

 

[longview]

Fewer people is never a bad thing. Highways traffic has been exceptionally pleasant these past few months.

Most people agree, it is getting the voluntary reduction that is the problem.

 

[calamity]

Most people agree, it is getting the voluntary reduction that is the problem.

We kind of are.

 

[longview]

We kind of are.

I was not talking about births! We have 7 billion people alive, some would say that is too many, but
in any case I do not see bunches running for the exit door of life.

 

[PoS]

Fewer people is never a bad thing. Highways traffic has been exceptionally pleasant these past few months.

LOL well I cant fault you for being honest.

 

[Lovebug]

Does gas have an expiration date? It has been in tank for a while now.

 

[calamity]

Does gas have an expiration date? It has been in tank for a while now.

Hard to say. I know it used to be the case that gas would separate. And, back in the 80's and before, problems developed when burning old gas like that.

Today, my understanding is that this is no longer an issue. I kind of prove it each year by firing up a lawnmower in March with the same gas in the the tank I left there back in October.

 

[Lovebug]

Hard to say. I know it used to be the case that gas would separate. And, back in the 80's and before, problems developed when burning old gas like that.

Today, my understanding is that this is no longer an issue. I kind of prove it each year by firing up a lawnmower in March with the same gas in the the tank I left there back in October.

Thanks. I like that.

 

[longview]

Does gas have an expiration date? It has been in tank for a while now.

Gasoline can breakdown with contact with the air over time. if the gas tank is sealed, and near full, I think you could safely expect a year or more.
It may be hard starting, but it will run.
I understand diesel can last much longer.
They sell a product called sta-bil, for vehicles that will be stored for a while, like boats.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/STA-BIL-...MI8q7ZpPWh6QIVD9bACh27UgJTEAYYASABEgJnofD_BwE

 

[Jack Hays]

[h=2]March 2020 CO2 Levels at Mauna Loa Show No Obvious Effect from Global Economic Downturn[/h]April 7th, 2020The COVID-19 disease spread is causing a worldwide shutdown in economic activity as business close, airlines cancel flights, and people shelter in their homes. For example, there was a 28% decline in global commercial air traffic in March 2020 compared to March of last year.
Last month I described a simple method for removing the large seasonal cycle from the Mauna Loa CO2 data, and well as the average effects from El Nino and La Nina (the removal is noisy and imperfect), in an effort to capture the underlying trend in CO2 and so provide a baseline to compare future months’ measurements too.
What we are looking for is any evidence of a decline in the atmospheric CO2 content that would be strong enough to attribute to the economic downturn. As can be seen, the latest CO2 data show a slight downturn, but it’s not yet out of the ordinary compare to previous month-to-month downturns.
I personally doubt we will see a clear COVID-19 effect in the CO2 data in the coming months, but I would be glad to be proved wrong. . . .

 

[Bergslagstroll]

So you care more about green new deals than people's lives? Not surprising.

A green new deal is the best way to gain both a economical and social recovery from the devastating and tragic Corona outbreak.

Rich nations must make pandemic recovery plans green: global investors - Reuters

Put clean energy at the heart of stimulus plans to counter the coronavirus crisis – Analysis - IEA

Renewable energy wins over oil and gas in post-coronavirus world: Russell - Reuters

Also reaching the Paris accord could save a million lives a year just from reduction in air pollution alone.

Health benefits far outweigh the costs of meeting climate change goals

While air pollution from fossil fuels makes Covid-19 and other diseases more deadly.

Air pollution linked to raised Covid-19 death risk - BBC News

 

[PoS]

A green new deal is the best way to gain both a economical and social recovery from the devastating and tragic Corona outbreak.

Rich nations must make pandemic recovery plans green: global investors - Reuters

Put clean energy at the heart of stimulus plans to counter the coronavirus crisis – Analysis - IEA

Renewable energy wins over oil and gas in post-coronavirus world: Russell - Reuters

Also reaching the Paris accord could save a million lives a year just from reduction in air pollution alone.

Health benefits far outweigh the costs of meeting climate change goals

While air pollution from fossil fuels makes Covid-19 and other diseases more deadly.

Air pollution linked to raised Covid-19 death risk - BBC News

Ridiculous. You just want to bankrupt economies with your neo-luddite fantasy.

 

[Tim the plumber]

Fewer people is never a bad thing. Highways traffic has been exceptionally pleasant these past few months.

How evil can you be????

What a nasty unpleasant down right evil mind virus you have.

Human progress is dependant upon the ingenuity of humanity to solve problems. This is at some point based on the population of people who have access to the opportunity to inovate and overcome problems, to invent new technology and stuff. This requires societies which are reasonably free. Not controled from above. The opposite of how you want to world to be.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Ridiculous. You just want to bankrupt economies with your neo-luddite fantasy.

Even local Republicans are acknowledging the great benefits of renewable energy.

Why Republican Leaders Love Renewable Energy

There you are seeing sharp drop in costs for renewables and energy storage that outcompete fossil fuels all across the world.

LCOE from large scale PV fell 4% to $50 per megawatt-hour in six months – pv magazine International

There you also have a new record low cost of 1.35 cents per kilowatt hour for a solar power plant.

World's Cheapest Solar Farm | Solar Farms | Cheap Solar Power

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Global study show that most people think that the long term effects of climate change are as serious as the Corona outbreak.

Mark Carney: 'We can't self-isolate from climate change' - BBC News

 

[longview]

Ridiculous. You just want to bankrupt economies with your neo-luddite fantasy.

I suspect most do not know what a luddite is!

 

[PoS]

Even local Republicans are acknowledging the great benefits of renewable energy.

Why Republican Leaders Love Renewable Energy

There you are seeing sharp drop in costs for renewables and energy storage that outcompete fossil fuels all across the world.

LCOE from large scale PV fell 4% to $50 per megawatt-hour in six months – pv magazine International

There you also have a new record low cost of 1.35 cents per kilowatt hour for a solar power plant.

World's Cheapest Solar Farm | Solar Farms | Cheap Solar Power

Why do you keep posting the same 2 year old spam links over and over again? Have you no shame?

I suspect most do not know what a luddite is!

All they have to do is look in a mirror!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Why do you keep posting the same 2 year old spam links over and over again? Have you no shame?



All they have to do is look in a mirror!

You are continue to see increase in renewable energy in both Democratic and Republican run states.

"The American Wind Energy Association says wind is now the largest single source of electricity in Iowa and Kansas. Both states now get more than 40% of their electricity from wind. In both states, wind has surpassed coal.

Texas and Iowa led the US in wind power additions, and South Dakota had the largest percentage growth in 2019, “increasing its installed wind capacity by over 50 percent after installing 506 MW."

The Des Moines Register points out that “projects in Iowa added the second-most wind power capacity of any state in 2019, behind only Texas.””

Wind is now the largest power source in Iowa and Kansas - Electrek

 

[ataraxia]

How evil can you be????

What a nasty unpleasant down right evil mind virus you have.

Human progress is dependant upon the ingenuity of humanity to solve problems. This is at some point based on the population of people who have access to the opportunity to inovate and overcome problems, to invent new technology and stuff. This requires societies which are reasonably free. Not controled from above. The opposite of how you want to world to be.

Just about all technological breakthroughs of the 20th century came from federal government funding: airplanes, rockets, satellites , rockets, nuclear power, computers, lasers, Solid state physics, the internet, etc...

 

[ataraxia]

So you care more about green new deals than people's lives? Not surprising.

Why should there be a choice? It’s not either/or. In fact, they necessarily go together. It’s saving our environment AND our lives.