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Moving goal posts?
Not a reasonable comparison- You know that as well as i.
Culture, religions, history, judicial systems, educational levels, are just a small part of the difference between these and Astan and Iraq.How so? Werent they fairly radical ideologies often with centuries of history that changed fairly rapidly and in significant ways?
Culture, religions, history, judicial systems, educational levels, are just a small part of the difference between these and Astan and Iraq.
Japan - The Emperor spoke and they obeyed. From what I understand not one US soldier who landed was attacked. That is obedience. Little religious diversity - mostly Shinto.
Germans - complete defeat - but they also had a thriving democracy before Hitler.
So we should return to the topic?
The left here in Canada are no less apologists for ISIS and Muslim extremism. The leading Liberal in Canada believes our only role should be to airdrop blankets and food to the innocent people driven from their homes and lives by savages. They believe the above noted interaction between Canadian forces and ISIS scum is a scandal against our Conservative Prime Minister and his government rather than an example of the fine, brave young men and women who serve in our forces. Disgusting.
The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.
We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
Sure, worked great in Vietnam, why not Iraq? It's also been a winning strategy for Israel in Gaza.
You want to occupy Iraq for decades and then complain about government spending on the other hand? Please, have some self-respect.
What's your solution?
Never said they were. ISIL is not representative of the Muslim world.They were extremist ideologies, and lets face it ISIS isn't known for its tolerance and diversity.
For the most part, they're killing each other. Just let them do that until they get sick of it.
For the most part, they're killing each other. Just let them do that until they get sick of it.
Do not go there.What about the westerners they're killing?
Never said they were. ISIL is not representative of the Muslim world.
They wish to create a division between Sunni-Shia - But ISIL rose because Sunni in Iraq were disfranchised - 1st by the US who realized much later- **** me we have a problem- then by the past Al Maliki. Who was disowned by the US and Iran - hence a new PM- we shall have to wait and see how he does.
In Iraq they have succeeded by creating divisions within.
Do you want then to succeed in the West. if you do, then treat Muslims in the US as enemies or possible enemies.
I have no problem going in, with support- air, training, weapons supply- to kill them. No front line troops.They dont need to be representative-they are the radicals responsible for shaping much of the events pertaining to the islamic word.
Not all muslims are the problem-but the extremists are and I will call that out anytime and place I see it.
I have no problem going in, with support- air, training, weapons supply- to kill them. No front line troops.
Where do we differ?
Sure, worked great in Vietnam, why not Iraq? It's also been a winning strategy for Israel in Gaza.
You want to occupy Iraq for decades and then complain about government spending on the other hand? Please, have some self-respect.
You mean the "the left who do everything in their power to undermine it." yeah, that did work great in Vietnam.
You mean the "the left who do everything in their power to undermine it." yeah, that did work great in Vietnam.
What about the westerners they're killing?
You mean the "the left who do everything in their power to undermine it." yeah, that did work great in Vietnam.
How would occupying Iraq forever stop that?
The left ceded Vietnam to the communists, and now have ceded Iraq to ISIS and Iran. This is how liberals fight wars. :doh
The Libbos see America as the enemy.
Canadian forces exchange gunfire with ISIL fighters in Iraq in first confirmed ground battle involving western forces.
Canadian special forces have clashed with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant group by exchanging gunfire in Iraq in recent days, in the first confirmed ground battle between western troops and ISIL, a senior officer has said. The Canadians came under mortar and machine gun fire while training Iraqi troops near the front lines and shot back in what Canadian special forces commander, Brigadier General Michael Rouleau, described as self-defence, killing the ISIL fighters.
Rouleau said the melee had taken place in the previous seven days and was "the first time we've taken fire and returned fire" in Iraq, where the armed group has overrun large areas.
Cont... Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq - Al Jazeera English
The conflict with ISIS continues to escalate, kudo's to the Canadians special forces snipers. Luckily no casualties on the friendly side.
Still when I read about these things I can't help but be angry that Obama ceded Iraq to ISIS, and now we must go back in to kill them.
He put his personal political gain above the lives of Iraqi's and the coalition forces.
Heres a vid of Canadian spec ops forces.
What's your solution?
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