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The left here in Canada are no less apologists for ISIS and Muslim extremism. The leading Liberal in Canada believes our only role should be to airdrop blankets and food to the innocent people driven from their homes and lives by savages. They believe the above noted interaction between Canadian forces and ISIS scum is a scandal against our Conservative Prime Minister and his government rather than an example of the fine, brave young men and women who serve in our forces. Disgusting.
The left here in Canada are no less apologists for ISIS and Muslim extremism. The leading Liberal in Canada believes our only role should be to airdrop blankets and food to the innocent people driven from their homes and lives by savages. They believe the above noted interaction between Canadian forces and ISIS scum is a scandal against our Conservative Prime Minister and his government rather than an example of the fine, brave young men and women who serve in our forces. Disgusting.
That is, they are pacifists.
What is it about the left that paralyzes them in the face of evil? I hope Canadians are practical and wise enough to see they were justified in taking a stand.
Most Canadians are - a high percentage of Canadians approve of our governments interventions and assistance in Iraq to combat the movement of ISIS and the standing of the Liberal Party's leader has been steadily eroding over the past few months as Canadians see that in the times we live in his ideas are dangerous not only to those directly suffering but to us here in Canada as well.
I believe Canada has a good size Muslim population, how has that affected attitudes?
It's why the leader of the Liberal Party has been pandering to Muslims and trivializing the connections between extremists and the religion. But there are many very strong voices here in the Muslim communities and in our mainstream media who have called out extremism and warned against ignoring or excusing it. We have many Ahmadis Muslims, driven out of Pakistan because they weren't extreme or fundamentalist enough and these are moderate voices strongly opposed to violence against others and things like Sharia Law have been rejected here as opposed to being accepted in many parts of Europe.
Most Canadians are accepting of all peoples of the world and welcome them to our country but we despise those who bring their wars and their petty grievances with them. Extremist Muslims are bringing those wars and petty grievances inside Canadian borders and we don't want that to continue and grow so the best place to fight it is where it is rooted, and that's in the Middle East.
Democrats would disagree with you.
Democrats would disagree with you.
As the mountain will not come to Muhammad, we went to the mountain.
Bush decided it was better to fight them in the sandbox than on US soil.
Did you misunderstand the half quote?
...the best place to fight it is where it is rooted, and that's in the Middle East.
I guess I misunderstood how you were using it.
Because fighting them there for, give or take, a decade and a half has led to fewer, and less violent/aggressive/expansionist/whatever Extremist Muslims?
Just curious at what point we should sit down and think about this and NOT continue doing the same exact things that have been pretty much 100% ineffective...
The alternative to fighting them there is to cede the entire territory to savages and abandon the millions of good people who are our friends with the potential for a massive refugee situation flooding into other areas of the globe.
Sometimes there are no good or optimal choices, there are just best of a bad lot choices.
I would argue that the actual "war" (such as it is) is between Islam and radical Islam and that any fallout in the West is strictly collateral damage.
I think what's necessary, as Abdel el-Sisi, said recently, is a "religious revolution" within the Islamic faith.
I think we need to stop pretending that we have any influence at all over radical Islam (or Islam more generally) on the street and we need to start looking for was to foment the kind of revolution that el-Sisi was talking about at the leadership level.
I think that that would take us a good deal further toward ultimately being able to live "with" Islam than this never ending game of wack-a-mole we're playing with extremists.
I'm not averse to killing folks when it's practical and will arguably further out ultimate objective, but it's clear that "defense" has to take a back seat to "diplomacy" on this issue if we're ever going to get anywhere.
Unfortunately there isn't a multi-billion-dollar diplomacy lobby stirring the pot in Washington and politicians are able to deliver their constituencies a great deal more "pork" in an effort to make armored vehicles and bombs than they can bringing orders for pencils and paper back to their districts.
Because fighting them there for, give or take, a decade and a half has led to fewer, and less violent/aggressive/expansionist/whatever Extremist Muslims?
Just curious at what point we should sit down and think about this and NOT continue doing the same exact things that have been pretty much 100% ineffective...
The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.
We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.
We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
How long would it take in Afghanistan?
How long for Iraq?
The culture within the country has to change, thinking that takes a few decades is ludicrous.
Japan, Korea, Germany-all changed significantly in a few decades.
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