Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways

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Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

Justice Neill Brown told Schellenberg in 2012 that he was lucky to be living in Canada and not caught up in Libya or Syria.

“Your country deserves much better from you,” Brown said. “You are in one of the best places in the whole world to live. You are not caught up in Libya or Syria.”

Brown sentenced Schellenberg to two years jail time minus time served for drug possession for the purpose of trafficking.

COMMENT:-

TU Curmudgeon said:

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Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways
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Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

Justice Neill Brown told Schellenberg in 2012 that he was lucky to be living in Canada and not caught up in Libya or Syria.

“Your country deserves much better from you,” Brown said. “You are in one of the best places in the whole world to live. You are not caught up in Libya or Syria.”

Brown sentenced Schellenberg to two years jail time minus time served for drug possession for the purpose of trafficking.

COMMENT:-

Not quite such a "clear cut" case as some portions of the media are making it out to be.

I did notice that he was prosecuted for attempting to smuggle drugs OUT OF China.

I also noticed that the appeal of his sentence was one that he, not the Chinese government, initiated.

The problem with appealing a sentence is that gives the courts the power to INCREASE it as well as to decrease it.

PS - Please take note of the fact that none of the governments that are protesting the SENTENCE are complaining about the actual CONVICTION.
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Darwin wins again.

TU Curmudgeon said:

From Global News

Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways
​

Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

Justice Neill Brown told Schellenberg in 2012 that he was lucky to be living in Canada and not caught up in Libya or Syria.

“Your country deserves much better from you,” Brown said. “You are in one of the best places in the whole world to live. You are not caught up in Libya or Syria.”

Brown sentenced Schellenberg to two years jail time minus time served for drug possession for the purpose of trafficking.

COMMENT:-

Not quite such a "clear cut" case as some portions of the media are making it out to be.

I did notice that he was prosecuted for attempting to smuggle drugs OUT OF China.

I also noticed that the appeal of his sentence was one that he, not the Chinese government, initiated.

The problem with appealing a sentence is that gives the courts the power to INCREASE it as well as to decrease it.

PS - Please take note of the fact that none of the governments that are protesting the SENTENCE are complaining about the actual CONVICTION.
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I think there is little danger of a death sentence being increased.
When people break the law in other countries, they risk being exposed to that countries justice system.
Sometimes those risks are very high.

…..When in Rome.....Idiot.

Fledermaus said:

Darwin wins again.

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Sounds like the case.

longview said:

I think there is little danger of a death sentence being increased.
When people break the law in other countries, they risk being exposed to that countries justice system.
Sometimes those risks are very high.

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The sentence appealed from was 15 years in jail.

Mr. Schellenberg was successful in convincing the courts that 15 years in jail was NOT an appropriate sentence.

Be careful what you ask for, eh wot?

TU Curmudgeon said:

The sentence appealed from was 15 years in jail.

Mr. Schellenberg was successful in convincing the courts that 15 years in jail was NOT an appropriate sentence.

Be careful what you ask for, eh wot?

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Sorry, I thought the title of the article was "Canadian sentenced to death in China"
SO he was sentenced to 15 years, but appealed and got sentenced to death?

longview said:

Sorry, I thought the title of the article was "Canadian sentenced to death in China"
SO he was sentenced to 15 years, but appealed and got sentenced to death?

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Yes indeed.

Of course he can always console himself with the fact that he won't spend the next 15 years in a Chinese prison.

Small comfort that, eh wot?

TU Curmudgeon said:

Yes indeed.

Of course he can always console himself with the fact that he won't spend the next 15 years in a Chinese prison.

Small comfort that, eh wot?

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I have known people who it seemed like the only luck that had was bad.

longview said:

I have known people who it seemed like the only luck that had was bad.

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