Canadian Relations News: Snow Bird Act and US envoy states that closer ties between Canada and the US are possible, even if tariffs remain (1 Viewer)

[Yes_Minister]

I think I will post two stories here because they fit the same theme:

There is a bi-partisan bill being pushed in Congress that would allow Canadian snowbirds to stay in the US longer without a Visa:

‘Canadian Snowbird Act’ proposed in U.S. Congress

A proposed U.S. bill could allow Canadian snowbirds who own or lease a residence in the United States to stay longer. Here's what an immigration lawyer and a seniors group think.

www.ctvnews.ca

Also, US Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra thinks stronger ties between Canada and the US are possible even if tariffs remain:

Trump’s tariffs on Canada may stay, but stronger ties possible: U.S. envoy - National | Globalnews.ca

U.S. ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra says there are opportunities to secure new economic and security partnerships on the foundation set by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

globalnews.ca

This is delusional thinking. The snowbirds are not going to return in the same number just because you are not going to fingerprint them after 30 days. As long as the tariffs and the threats of annexation remain, Canadians will not want to visit the US.

And Canadians will not want closer ties to the US as long as the tariffs remain. Trump and his supporters stabbed Canada in the back and then they are confused as to why we take this personally.

 

[Hamish Howl]

They just don't get it.

 

[Grand Mal]

I think I will post two stories here because they fit the same theme:

There is a bi-partisan bill being pushed in Congress that would allow Canadian snowbirds to stay in the US longer without a Visa:

‘Canadian Snowbird Act’ proposed in U.S. Congress

A proposed U.S. bill could allow Canadian snowbirds who own or lease a residence in the United States to stay longer. Here's what an immigration lawyer and a seniors group think.

www.ctvnews.ca

Also, US Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra thinks stronger ties between Canada and the US are possible even if tariffs remain:

Trump’s tariffs on Canada may stay, but stronger ties possible: U.S. envoy - National | Globalnews.ca

U.S. ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra says there are opportunities to secure new economic and security partnerships on the foundation set by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

globalnews.ca

This is delusional thinking. The snowbirds are not going to return in the same number just because you are not going to fingerprint them after 30 days. As long as the tariffs and the threats of annexation remain, Canadians will not want to visit the US.

And Canadians will not want closer ties to the US as long as the tariffs remain. Trump and his supporters stabbed Canada in the back and then they are confused as to why we take this personally.

The US has declared itself to be Canada's enemy. Far as I'm concerned any Canadian who vacations in America ought to have their passport revoked.

 

[Allan]

Also, US Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra thinks stronger ties between Canada and the US are possible even if tariffs remain

Good luck with that!

"Go **** yourself" is a thing that has united our country from coast to coast.

These people really can't read the room can they.

 

[sanman]

This is delusional thinking. The snowbirds are not going to return in the same number just because you are not going to fingerprint them after 30 days. As long as the tariffs and the threats of annexation remain, Canadians will not want to visit the US.

And Canadians will not want closer ties to the US as long as the tariffs remain. Trump and his supporters stabbed Canada in the back and then they are confused as to why we take this personally.

That's like claiming that diplomatic tiffs between US and China will keep Americans from buying cheap Chinese goods from Wal-Mart, Dollar Store, etc.

I'll believe when I see it.

 

[Mike1950]

This bill is a poor substitute for simply treating Canada with fairness and respect.

 

[Allan]

That's like claiming that diplomatic tiffs between US and China will keep Americans from buying cheap Chinese goods from Wal-Mart, Dollar Store, etc.

Terrible analogy. Did a rejected beta AI program write that for you?

I'll believe when I see it.

You're seeing it. Well, you're not. But people have posted the declining tourism numbers and boycotts all over the forum.

 

[Allan]

This bill is a poor substitute for simply treating Canada with fairness and respect.

Bingo.

 

[Grand Mal]

That's like claiming that diplomatic tiffs between US and China will keep Americans from buying cheap Chinese goods from Wal-Mart, Dollar Store, etc.

I'll believe when I see it.

Repeatedly threatening to take over a country is not a 'diplomatic tiff'. And the President of the US has threatened two Canadian Prime Ministers.
The magatry can slough Trumps threats off as 'trolling' till the cows come home but the world is watching.

 

[Yes_Minister]

That's like claiming that diplomatic tiffs between US and China will keep Americans from buying cheap Chinese goods from Wal-Mart, Dollar Store, etc.

I'll believe when I see it.

You see it in the tourism decline in the US:

MSN

And Canadian campaigns to boycott US goods:

'My sacrifice': Canadians boycott US products as Trump feeds 'Buy Canada' surge

Canadians are foregoing their favorite American products in anger at President Donald Trump. The boycott could impact the U.S. economy.

www.usatoday.com

I think you are underestimating how angry Canadians are at the US nowadays. This Snowbird bill or this snake oil salesman you call an Ambassador saying ties should become stronger despite the tariffs is not going to do anything to lessen this anger.

 

[Grand Mal]

You see it in the tourism decline in the US:

Weak US travel demand hurting tourism industry; most prepare for slowdown ahead of summer - CNBC TV18

Expedia Group said Friday that reduced travel demand in the United States led to its weaker-than-expected revenue in the first quarter, and Bank of America said credit card transactions showed spending on flights and lodging kept falling last month.

www.cnbctv18.com

And Canadian campaigns to boycott US goods:

'My sacrifice': Canadians boycott US products as Trump feeds 'Buy Canada' surge

Canadians are foregoing their favorite American products in anger at President Donald Trump. The boycott could impact the U.S. economy.

www.usatoday.com

I think you are underestimating how angry Canadians are at the US nowadays. This Snowbird bill or this snake oil salesman you call an Ambassador saying ties should become stronger despite the tariffs is not going to do anything to lessen this anger.

The USA can KMA!

 

[phoenix2020]

I think I will post two stories here because they fit the same theme:

There is a bi-partisan bill being pushed in Congress that would allow Canadian snowbirds to stay in the US longer without a Visa:

‘Canadian Snowbird Act’ proposed in U.S. Congress

A proposed U.S. bill could allow Canadian snowbirds who own or lease a residence in the United States to stay longer. Here's what an immigration lawyer and a seniors group think.

www.ctvnews.ca

Also, US Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra thinks stronger ties between Canada and the US are possible even if tariffs remain:

Trump’s tariffs on Canada may stay, but stronger ties possible: U.S. envoy - National | Globalnews.ca

U.S. ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra says there are opportunities to secure new economic and security partnerships on the foundation set by Prime Minister Mark Carney.

globalnews.ca

This is delusional thinking. The snowbirds are not going to return in the same number just because you are not going to fingerprint them after 30 days. As long as the tariffs and the threats of annexation remain, Canadians will not want to visit the US.

And Canadians will not want closer ties to the US as long as the tariffs remain. Trump and his supporters stabbed Canada in the back and then they are confused as to why we take this personally.

It would be best for Canadians to avoid travel to the United States. The risk of being disappeared for weeks is not worth taking when there are many other wonderful places to visit in the world whose leadership isn’t actively hostile toward you.

 

[phoenix2020]

I'll believe when I see it.

Out of curiosity, why this charade? Obviously you’ll never believe it whether or not you see it, because Donald decides what you are allowed to believe. We know it. You know it. So, why this pretense of independent thought? Why not save everybody including yourself some time and say what you really think, which is that you don’t care what Canadians do unless it involves being annexed?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

That's like claiming that diplomatic tiffs between US and China will keep Americans from buying cheap Chinese goods from Wal-Mart, Dollar Store, etc.

I'll believe when I see it.

Both are a matter of convenience and one adds security to it

Buying Chinese goods is convenient and affordable, US goods if you can find them are more expensive.

Travel to the US is roughly the same cost as Mexico or many other locations. The ability to drive there made it convenient. Now with border risks and overzealous agents adding risks of being tossed in jail make it a security risk to travel to the US. Heck if I was a visible minority Canadian I would absolutely avoid all travel to the US.

 

[sanman]

Both are a matter of convenience and one adds security to it

Buying Chinese goods is convenient and affordable, US goods if you can find them are more expensive.

Travel to the US is roughly the same cost as Mexico or many other locations. The ability to drive there made it convenient. Now with border risks and overzealous agents adding risks of being tossed in jail make it a security risk to travel to the US. Heck if I was a visible minority Canadian I would absolutely avoid all travel to the US.

No, travel to US is obviously cheaper for Canadians than going to Mexico, whether flying or driving (especially driving)
Crime is less, infrastructuere is better.

 

[Allan]

No, travel to US is obviously cheaper for Canadians than going to Mexico, whether flying or driving (especially driving)

What? Mexico and the Caribbean are cheaper than the US. Obviously.

Crime is less, infrastructuere is better.

Yeah right.

Homicide rate
Florida 7.2
Cuba 4.5

As for infrastructure the Caribbean, Mexico etc have excellent resorts.

 

[sanman]

What? Mexico and the Caribbean are cheaper than the US. Obviously.



Yeah right.

Homicide rate
Florida 7.2
Cuba 4.5

Cuba --- yes, I'm sure that regime represents your values.
The fact that it's tottering - like yours is - must give you some comfort.

As for infrastructure the Caribbean, Mexico etc have excellent resorts.

Step outside those resorts sometime

 

[Allan]

Cuba --- yes, I'm sure that regime represents your values.
The fact that it's tottering - like yours is - must give you some comfort.



Step outside those resorts sometime

You've never been outside the US

Explains a lot!