• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Canada threatens U.S. with retaliatory tariffs in EV tax credit dispute

How long until the inevitable idiotic "this is just the same as Turmp's utterly pointless trade war that hurt us far more than any identifiable help, which cannot be identified" crap?
 
Oh...well, I guess we should never consider building cars in the United States ever again.
Let's all cheer for the folks who don't want cars built in America, because it hurts Biden?

Really? Seriously?
Because we can't possibly build any cars unless we pass the "Build Biden's Bullshit" bill.
 
I find it interesting how the MAGA crowd really seems to prioritize Making Canada Great Again these days. First they got torqued over the Keystone pipeline that prioritized Canada's interests over those of the United States. Now they prefer vehicles to be built in Canada. It's weird.
 
Its language marks a stronger policy position from Canada, which up until Friday has been thin on specific retaliatory actions the federal government is ready to take to push Democrats to reconsider the $4,500 tax credit expansion to consumers who buy American-assembled EVs.
So....to be clear... just how strong is the belief that we should buy American to be stronger? You're not gonna get products at the same price as those made in many other countries without:

1. Getting rid of all the worker protections those countries don't have so that labor inputs are at least the same, which incidentally neuters the entire complaint about "libruls don't care about slavery in China!"

2. Things like tax credits that artificially reduce cost on taxpayer dollar.

There are other tweaks, but they apply to those two main categories of action.



So which is it? If I piece together all the criticisms of Biden I've seen this year and treated it as gospel, the conclusion would be that to improve things we should attempt to: stab ourselves in the dick with a hammer, bang our head on the wall by kicking a table, and take out the trash by putting it in the closet and lighting it on fire.

Why? Duh, because they're piecemeal, disconnected from every other negative thing one has said about him. (Well, at least in the committed attackers).

Pick consistent goals or it's all nonsense.
I think it really is as knee jerk as I suspect: "'The left' criticized Trump for trade wars with Canada because it hurt America, so they're poopyface hypocrites because Biden wants to do this", and to add insult to injury that angle is drawn without bothering to compare benefits. One compares cost-benefit analysis. One doesn't ignore whichever of those two it is most helpful to ignore and argue only the other. But...here we are (probably)
 
i thought that republicans wanted things built in america to give people more jobs do they not support that now?
 
Nobody does. It's not been finalized yet.
I just showed you a short summary of a good many parts of the bill.
Arguing that it hasn't been finalized is bullshit, because every bill that's ever passed through Congress is subject to changes as they are finalized.
You might as well just say that you're against the existence of Congressional lawmaking altogether.

ANARCHIST.
 
Lol - where's your timeline for when provisions are no longer in effect so they can pretend it costs much less than it does?

So, you won't answer the question and your response is a straw man.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…