Canada Prepares Army

[Tangmo]

At this point he is suffering from having-the-last-wordatitus. I wouldn't bother. I have debated Righties long enough to know their fragile egos require that they have the last word in every conservation. Let him have the last word and he will be more frustrated with your lack of acknowledgement than he would if you kept engaging him. Trust me on this one.

Wrong. Your post is silly snowflake nonsense.

I've given a last word pass to many MAGA posts over time. It's my long standing posting policy not to go on forever with those who want or need to do that.

The fact remains, notwithstanding something characteristically Canadian outrageous, I'm done here.

Carry On.

 

[Sage077]

Trump still can't bring the armed forces over to him, nor will he find any way to do this. And the armed forces have the final say about who runs the country, which is a major change for the USA armed forces and to the country -- to include for the world.

This is so because Trump has changed American society, culture, laws, mores, norms and so on. Trump's effect has changed the military too.

Indeed, no longer does the Potus/C'nC have the right to be wrong. No longer do the generals and admirals have their "salute moment" when they end their criticism and opposition to accept the civilian commander having the right to be wrong. Trump is wrong all the time which means all the norms and mores no longer apply. And that the Potus/C'nC being wrong all the time has to end at one time too many. Which one time too many remains open at this time, but surely it will be if Trump tries to cancel an election and voting event.

You describe the situation very well indeed.. And all this has happened in just eight months. If it progresses along the same path , things should get quite intense..........and it would not be surprising i f the "elections" are cancelled , postponed or totally influenced by him to ensure his stay in power............or someone HE delegates...who would be of the same cloth. Truth is that it is very hard (and sad) to watch this taking place to a country with such promise. He is gathering more and more control over everything and everyone in the country......and his trade wars are a form of extortion on the world nations. He is devolving into a full on dictator ..........creating a very unstable and unsettled planet. He is functioning like an outdated Roman emperor. .........as his mindset is of that era. The only values that matter are obscene wealth and obscene power. Protests are being subdcued, freedoms are bing curtailed..... and like a cancer......it is spreading in an uncontrolled way.

 

[Tangmo]

You describe the situation very well indeed.. And all this has happened in just eight months. If it progresses along the same path , things should get quite intense..........and it would not be surprising i f the "elections" are cancelled , postponed or totally influenced by him to ensure his stay in power............or someone HE delegates...who would be of the same cloth.

Well that's your reference to the '28 quadrennial election of the president. That's 3+ years more for Trump and his MAGAs in power and authority to embed themselves in perpetuity. While my post did not specify differently, my reference is to the '26 midterm voting, not 3+ years from now. If the wait time is 3+ years from now Trump-MAGAs would be set in perpetuity by that time and for sure -- and the '28 election would be a coronation by any name.

Trump is hysterical already about the midterm voting and that's what is coming next of course. The red state gerrymandering is Trump's response to that voting as it is expected to go at this time, which is for the Democrats. Yet Trump who did J6 is not about to cede any power whatsoever to the D's in the midterm voting. Even if it's only in the US House, not.

The redistricting numbers battle for the House is on so we'll see what we have after the smoke clears. If redistricting isn't enough for Trump in its numbers outcome, then he can have AG Bondi do what the then AG Barr would not do, which to to holler VOTER FRAUD in the blue cities and states. Trump can send in his federal LEO goons to seize the machines and sites to rerun the voting so the MAGA Republicans prevail.

That would be the clear and unmistakable end of free and fair elections in the USA so the military would need to respond to this. The active duty armed forces have refused already to do Trump's madhouse mass deportation roundup in the communities and in the streets, and the Pentagon has likewise refused to do Trump's fascist mass roundup of his "enemy within" political opposition. The active duty armed forces up and down the ranks will not accept the corrupt ending of free and fair elections either.

Indeed, the armed forces are marking time on this because the liberals in their eternally gross stupidity still believe there will be elections and that they will win. It's encouraging on this however as some knucklehead libs have begun to consider the possibility as real that Trump and his federal goons would destroy the midterm voting outcome as it's expected to be at this time. The armed forces need the support of the libs to remove Trump and his Idiocracy in Washington.

The armed forces can't do it with idiot libs yelling against them and it. If the '26 midterm voting goes as expected, and Trump and his federal goons act as expected to negate the voting, only then would the libs become furious enough to support the inevitable military action of state. Indeed, the US armed forces would insist on the lib civilians being in the temporary interim government with the generals and admirals active duty and retired alike who would need that legitimacy. The civilian presence in the new interim government would make it a military mutiny rather than a coup that excludes civilians. The US armed forces need civilians in this and are insisting on it.

 

[Sage077]

Well that's your reference to the '28 quadrennial election of the president. That's 3+ years more for Trump and his MAGAs in power and authority to embed themselves in perpetuity. While my post did not specify differently, my reference is to the '26 midterm voting, not 3+ years from now. If the wait time is 3+ years from now Trump-MAGAs would be set in perpetuity by that time and for sure -- and the '28 election would be a coronation by any name.

Trump is hysterical already about the midterm voting and that's what is coming next of course. The red state gerrymandering is Trump's response to that voting as it is expected to go at this time, which is for the Democrats. Yet Trump who did J6 is not about to cede any power whatsoever to the D's in the midterm voting. Even if it's only in the US House, not.

The redistricting numbers battle for the House is on so we'll see what we have after the smoke clears. If redistricting isn't enough for Trump in its numbers outcome, then he can have AG Bondi do what the then AG Barr would not do, which to to holler VOTER FRAUD in the blue cities and states. Trump can send in his federal LEO goons to seize the machines and sites to rerun the voting so the MAGA Republicans prevail.

That would be the clear and unmistakable end of free and fair elections in the USA so the military would need to respond to this. The active duty armed forces have refused already to do Trump's madhouse mass deportation roundup in the communities and in the streets, and the Pentagon has likewise refused to do Trump's fascist mass roundup of his "enemy within" political opposition. The active duty armed forces up and down the ranks will not accept the corrupt ending of free and fair elections either.

Indeed, the armed forces are marking time on this because the liberals in their eternally gross stupidity still believe there will be elections and that they will win. It's encouraging on this however as some knucklehead libs have begun to consider the possibility as real that Trump and his federal goons would destroy the midterm voting outcome as it's expected to be at this time. The armed forces need the support of the libs to remove Trump and his Idiocracy in Washington.

The armed forces can't do it with idiot libs yelling against them and it. If the '26 midterm voting goes as expected, and Trump and his federal goons act as expected to negate the voting, only then would the libs become furious enough to support the inevitable military action of state. Indeed, the US armed forces would insist on the lib civilians being in the temporary interim government with the generals and admirals active duty and retired alike who would need that legitimacy. The civilian presence in the new interim government would make it a military mutiny rather than a coup that excludes civilians. The US armed forces need civilians in this and are insisting on it.

what you are describing is a plausible scenario. Do you see another scenario that would be less extreme?? Is it possible that the legal system can step in and remove Trump from power before he gathers even more control or/and does more manipulating of the system and for HIS benefit . ?? Or is it too late??? ( something that I personally fear ).

 

[joluoto]

Hey, SNOWFLAKE, this seem right to you?

Canada will protect NATO's Eastern flank, and by NATO protecting Canada, they will protect Canada's Western flank."

Shouldn't that be the other way around?

I hope I don't look like an idiot now but it seems backwards.

I think the border Canada need to defend unfortunately is their southern border. There is one country that is a potential threat to Canada. The one that has threatened to turn Canada into a State.

 

[SavannahMann]

what you are describing is a plausible scenario. Do you see another scenario that would be less extreme?? Is it possible that the legal system can step in and remove Trump from power before he gathers even more control or/and does more manipulating of the system and for HIS benefit . ?? Or is it too late??? ( something that I personally fear ).

There are only three ways to remove a President from office. 1) Impeachment and removal by the Congress. Getting it through the House is a Simple Majority. But removal from office requires a 2/3 majority in the Senate. Realistically there is virtually no way to do so using this mechanism.

2) The Cabinet votes and determines that the President is incapable of carrying out the duties of the office. So the very people picked because of their loyalty and who would be fired by Trump if he got the slightest inkling that this was going on, are the ones who would be required to save the Republic. If Trump says he is able to carry out his duties, then the House and Senate combined have to uphold the removal by a 2/3 Majority. Another one that simply wouldn't happen.

3) The President voluntarily steps down. This is Trump we are talking about. He stirred up an Insurgency when he was voted out of office. The odds of him deciding that he will just step aside are essentially zero. Heck, for one and two above, expect Trump to Barricade the White House and demand the Military protect him from the Coup removing him from office.

There is no way for a Judge to do it. No way for a panel of judges to stand up and say no more. There is a fourth way. Deity. God could strike Trump down. That is even more unlikely than number three. Not because God loves Trump. But because God doesn't do that sort of thing anymore.

 

[joluoto]

what you are describing is a plausible scenario. Do you see another scenario that would be less extreme?? Is it possible that the legal system can step in and remove Trump from power before he gathers even more control or/and does more manipulating of the system and for HIS benefit . ?? Or is it too late??? ( something that I personally fear ).

There are only three ways to remove a President from office. 1) Impeachment and removal by the Congress. Getting it through the House is a Simple Majority. But removal from office requires a 2/3 majority in the Senate. Realistically there is virtually no way to do so using this mechanism.

2) The Cabinet votes and determines that the President is incapable of carrying out the duties of the office. So the very people picked because of their loyalty and who would be fired by Trump if he got the slightest inkling that this was going on, are the ones who would be required to save the Republic. If Trump says he is able to carry out his duties, then the House and Senate combined have to uphold the removal by a 2/3 Majority. Another one that simply wouldn't happen.

3) The President voluntarily steps down. This is Trump we are talking about. He stirred up an Insurgency when he was voted out of office. The odds of him deciding that he will just step aside are essentially zero. Heck, for one and two above, expect Trump to Barricade the White House and demand the Military protect him from the Coup removing him from office.

There is no way for a Judge to do it. No way for a panel of judges to stand up and say no more. There is a fourth way. Deity. God could strike Trump down. That is even more unlikely than number three. Not because God loves Trump. But because God doesn't do that sort of thing anymore.

This is correct. These are the only legal ways to remove a President. A President basically can't be removed unless he lost the support of his own party (and this won't happen). We also have to remember the law has lost all meaning and Trump and his government does not give one fig how many laws they break, and the Supreme Court will just give them a Carte Blanche to break any laws they want anyways.

 

[Loulit01]

I think the border Canada need to defend unfortunately is their southern border. There is one country that is a potential threat to Canada. The one that has threatened to turn Canada into a State.

What I'm saying is that NATO is east of Canada so NATO would be protecting Canada's eastern flank and Canada protects NATO's western flank. Not the other way around,

"Canada will protect NATO's Eastern flank, and by NATO protecting Canada, they will protect Canada's Western flank."
As the PM said.

Or am I wrong?

Your dig at the U.S. is noted and we deserve it, but I'm still curious about the Prime Minister's geography.

 

[joluoto]

What I'm saying is that NATO is east of Canada so NATO would be protecting Canada's eastern flank and Canada protects NATO's western flank. Not the other way around,

"Canada will protect NATO's Eastern flank, and by NATO protecting Canada, they will protect Canada's Western flank."
As the PM said.

Or am I wrong?

Your dig at the U.S. is noted and we deserve it, but I'm still curious about the Prime Minister's geography.

Yeah, he probably mispoke.

 

[Sage077]

There are only three ways to remove a President from office. 1) Impeachment and removal by the Congress. Getting it through the House is a Simple Majority. But removal from office requires a 2/3 majority in the Senate. Realistically there is virtually no way to do so using this mechanism.

2) The Cabinet votes and determines that the President is incapable of carrying out the duties of the office. So the very people picked because of their loyalty and who would be fired by Trump if he got the slightest inkling that this was going on, are the ones who would be required to save the Republic. If Trump says he is able to carry out his duties, then the House and Senate combined have to uphold the removal by a 2/3 Majority. Another one that simply wouldn't happen.

3) The President voluntarily steps down. This is Trump we are talking about. He stirred up an Insurgency when he was voted out of office. The odds of him deciding that he will just step aside are essentially zero. Heck, for one and two above, expect Trump to Barricade the White House and demand the Military protect him from the Coup removing him from office.

There is no way for a Judge to do it. No way for a panel of judges to stand up and say no more. There is a fourth way. Deity. God could strike Trump down. That is even more unlikely than number three. Not because God loves Trump. But because God doesn't do that sort of thing anymore.

Indeed!!! In a nutshell.........The USA is in big trouble ....... because they voted in this bloke ,KNOWING what he was like and KNOWING what he promised to do....... and THAT is very concerning for the country and the world at large.

Can he be removed on mental disorder basis?? His actions are not really sane. .....due to their extre3me nature. His ideas are based on delusions.He is a high level dictator and is granting himself moe and more control over everything. (and everyone). He is on a "cleansing" mission.........removing the humanity that he finds offensive and / or unacceptable .....under a variety of lame excuses. The question is : how come so many are too dumb to see what is really happening?? OR is it that they actually WANT a dictator...... because they see a dictator as "strong"....... That means they have no idea of what TRUE strength of pesonality and character is. Remember Hitelr was democratically voted into power too. ......
Trump's SADISTIC behavior is part of his psychological abnormality. Je is a pathological liar ( mentally disordered )

 

[SavannahMann]

Indeed!!! In a nutshell.........The USA is in big trouble ....... because they voted in this bloke ,KNOWING what he was like and KNOWING what he promised to do....... and THAT is very concerning for the country and the world at large.

Can he be removed on mental disorder basis?? His actions are not really sane. .....due to their extre3me nature. His ideas are based on delusions.He is a high level dictator and is granting himself moe and more control over everything. (and everyone). He is on a "cleansing" mission.........removing the humanity that he finds offensive and / or unacceptable .....under a variety of lame excuses. The question is : how come so many are too dumb to see what is really happening?? OR is it that they actually WANT a dictator...... because they see a dictator as "strong"....... That means they have no idea of what TRUE strength of pesonality and character is. Remember Hitelr was democratically voted into power too. ......
Trump's SADISTIC behavior is part of his psychological abnormality. Je is a pathological liar ( mentally disordered )

Hitler, sort of. What happened there is the NAZI Party got a minority of the seats. Hitler was viewed as a strong leader and the Military convinced the President Hindenburg to take him as Chancellor. The Military did this for a number of reasons, including an effort to stop Communists from gaining more power, and the idea that the Germans loved a Strong Leader. Also the Military assumed they could control Hitler, since he was only a Corporal in War one.

The NAZI's only got the Majority after Hitler banned all the other parties and you could only vote for NAZI's. It's easy to win an election when the choice is show up, or get in trouble, vote for the NAZI's, or get in more trouble.

The NAZI Followers absolutely cheered every step of the way. Like the MAGA Fanboys they imagine this is the way to make the Nation strong again.

 

[Sage077]

Hitler, sort of. What happened there is the NAZI Party got a minority of the seats. Hitler was viewed as a strong leader and the Military convinced the President Hindenburg to take him as Chancellor. The Military did this for a number of reasons, including an effort to stop Communists from gaining more power, and the idea that the Germans loved a Strong Leader. Also the Military assumed they could control Hitler, since he was only a Corporal in War one.

The NAZI's only got the Majority after Hitler banned all the other parties and you could only vote for NAZI's. It's easy to win an election when the choice is show up, or get in trouble, vote for the NAZI's, or get in more trouble.

The NAZI Followers absolutely cheered every step of the way. Like the MAGA Fanboys they imagine this is the way to make the Nation strong again.

Well stated. What was not identfed at the time or even later......is that Hitler was seriously delusional abut the jews....AND Bi polar . Trump is a narcissistic sociopath that is cold and brutal in nature to a psychologically pathological degree. His facade about being a "strong leader".......is just smoke and mirrors. He has many Achilles heals.......and these show regularly. His abuse of power is extreme and to a pathological degree. Really strong leaders don't rwsort to the verbal behavior , threats, name calling, and emotional firing of people as Donald does. Real strong leaders are calm, objective , intelligent , knowledgeable , don't alter the facts to suit their motives ETHICAL, moral, and have integrity. Trump has none of those. But then, strong leaders are usually NORMAL psychologically. (mentally STABLE ) Hitler was not. Trump is not. This is not "diagnosting"..........it is observable behavior. attitudes and emotional over reactions.

 

[Boots]

Actually, given Carney's focus on increased military spending we are on track to meet that by the end of the year and then moving up 5%. Carney has moved incredibly fast on defense, trade and intra provincial infrastructure and trade. What a huge change from Trudeau.

I really don't understand Trumpers. They have been bitching about Canadian defense forever and now we have a PM moving aggressively to step it up and they are still bitching.

Who is bitching?

 

[Callen]

Who is bitching?

Many on this forum. A search on NATO funding will provide answers to your question.

 

[SavannahMann]

Well stated. What was not identfed at the time or even later......is that Hitler was seriously delusional abut the jews....AND Bi polar . Trump is a narcissistic sociopath that is cold and brutal in nature to a psychologically pathological degree. His facade about being a "strong leader".......is just smoke and mirrors. He has many Achilles heals.......and these show regularly. His abuse of power is extreme and to a pathological degree. Really strong leaders don't rwsort to the verbal behavior , threats, name calling, and emotional firing of people as Donald does. Real strong leaders are calm, objective , intelligent , knowledgeable , don't alter the facts to suit their motives ETHICAL, moral, and have integrity. Trump has none of those. But then, strong leaders are usually NORMAL psychologically. (mentally STABLE ) Hitler was not. Trump is not. This is not "diagnosting"..........it is observable behavior. attitudes and emotional over reactions.

Oh that was well known. Hitler's feelings on the Jews and his plans were laid out in his book.

Trump demands power, but not responsibility. He won't accept that. Nothing is ever his fault.

 

[Sage077]

Oh that was well known. Hitler's feelings on the Jews and his plans were laid out in his book.

Trump demands power, but not responsibility. He won't accept that. Nothing is ever his fault.

And he really BELIEVES that he is never at fault. This has been a life long pattern of his behavior and attitude.

Yes....Hitlers plans were known. What does not seem to be as well known.....(for obvious reasons).....is his mental instability. And his conduct ( sadistic) behavior was not questioned. He was percieved as "tough. ie strong.
The perception about Trump is the same. Many can't tell the difference between "strength (healthy) and a bully. Not really surprising in a culture that is so aggressive and violent.