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Canada is now poorer, per capita, than Mississippi

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I have to admit, this surprised me.

Canada was supposed to be the anti-American success story for middle-class incomes. David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy wrote in 2014 in the New York Times that Canadians’ middle-class income had equaled Americans’ for the first time... Ian Austen and Leonhardt wrote for the New York Times about how middle-class Canadians were richer because of labor unions, government health care, stronger family values, and lower income inequality... At the Brookings Institution, Richard Reeves and Pete Rodrigue asked in a 2014 article, “Has the American Dream Moved to Canada?”...

All of these articles were written in 2014, and that’s because they had to be. As Scott Winship of the American Enterprise Institute has pointed out, 2014 was the only year when U.S. and Canadian median income were the same. Canada’s had been growing faster since roughly 2000, but once the gap was closed, U.S. median income began to take off the next year and hasn’t looked back. That year, 2015, was when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party took power in Canada, where they have been without interruption ever since....

A new report from the Fraser Institute, a Canadian free-market think tank, looks at income... and its findings are even worse for Canada. In a ranking of the 50 U.S. states and ten Canadian provinces by median earnings per person, all ten provinces line up at the bottom, occupying spots 51–60. Every U.S. state has higher median earnings per person than Alberta, the richest Canadian province....

Every state and province except Alberta saw increases in real median earnings between 2010 and 2022. But most U.S. states saw faster growth than their Canadian counterparts. British Columbia is the only Canadian province in the top half of the 60 total jurisdictions in earnings growth. Real earnings growth in Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, was slower than in every U.S. state.....
 
For more than 2 decades the American Enterprise Institute has been in opposition to the prevailing scientific opinion on climate change.

The Fraser Institute has received significant funding from foundations controlled by the Koch family, and also received significant donations from big oil and pharmaceuticals.
 
I'm not sure what the surprise is supposed to be here. Few countries compare to the US in per capita income.

I remember reading the articles in 2014, and kind of didn't ever go back and look at what had happened since - which is why I was surprised. I sort-of-loosely assumed Canada had kept track, instead of the U.S. pulling away.
 
For more than 2 decades the American Enterprise Institute has been in opposition to the prevailing scientific opinion on climate change.

The Fraser Institute has received significant funding from foundations controlled by the Koch family, and also received significant donations from big oil and pharmaceuticals.

Math Doesn't Count Because I Don't Like People Who May Or May Not Be Connected To People Who Know The People Who Did The Math.
 
I have to admit, this surprised me.

Canada was supposed to be the anti-American success story for middle-class incomes. David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy wrote in 2014 in the New York Times that Canadians’ middle-class income had equaled Americans’ for the first time... Ian Austen and Leonhardt wrote for the New York Times about how middle-class Canadians were richer because of labor unions, government health care, stronger family values, and lower income inequality... At the Brookings Institution, Richard Reeves and Pete Rodrigue asked in a 2014 article, “Has the American Dream Moved to Canada?”...
All of these articles were written in 2014, and that’s because they had to be. As Scott Winship of the American Enterprise Institute has pointed out, 2014 was the only year when U.S. and Canadian median income were the same. Canada’s had been growing faster since roughly 2000, but once the gap was closed, U.S. median income began to take off the next year and hasn’t looked back. That year, 2015, was when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party took power in Canada, where they have been without interruption ever since....
A new report from the Fraser Institute, a Canadian free-market think tank, looks at income... and its findings are even worse for Canada. In a ranking of the 50 U.S. states and ten Canadian provinces by median earnings per person, all ten provinces line up at the bottom, occupying spots 51–60. Every U.S. state has higher median earnings per person than Alberta, the richest Canadian province....
Every state and province except Alberta saw increases in real median earnings between 2010 and 2022. But most U.S. states saw faster growth than their Canadian counterparts. British Columbia is the only Canadian province in the top half of the 60 total jurisdictions in earnings growth. Real earnings growth in Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, was slower than in every U.S. state.....

Not "Every US State is Now Richer than Canada"?

Glass half empty kind of headline writer, I guess.
 
Had some friends who were teachers in northern British Colombia. Way up north. Like 2/3 of the way to Alaska. We came to visit and stay with them a few years ago. It was a eye opener on how poor and primitive rural Canada is. Just getting there was a challenge. Don't expect gas stations to be open 24/7. Our friends went on and on about the challenges of teaching these kids. Many of them are Indians (or the Canadian equivalent of native Americans). If all you know is Vancouver it's easy to get a misconception about what Canada is really like.
 
Not "Every US State is Now Richer than Canada"?

Glass half empty kind of headline writer, I guess.

"In a ranking of the 50 U.S. states and ten Canadian provinces by median earnings per person, all ten provinces line up at the bottom, occupying spots 51–60. Every U.S. state has higher median earnings per person than Alberta, the richest Canadian province...."

I believe that is the heart of the point being made.
 
Canada WTM (worse than Mississippi). That explains the posting content from our northern neighbors.
 
Canada WTM (worse than Mississippi). That explains the posting content from our northern neighbors.

Yeah, I assumed this was a troll.
 
"In a ranking of the 50 U.S. states and ten Canadian provinces by median earnings per person, all ten provinces line up at the bottom, occupying spots 51–60. Every U.S. state has higher median earnings per person than Alberta, the richest Canadian province...."

I believe that is the heart of the point being made.

I think the heart of the point being made is not that America is doing well but that Canada is doing poorly.

It is National Review, after all. They gag on the United States flourishing during a Democratic administration.
 
Had some friends who were teachers in northern British Colombia. Way up north. Like 2/3 of the way to Alaska. We came to visit and stay with them a few years ago. It was a eye opener on how poor and primitive rural Canada is. Just getting there was a challenge. Don't expect gas stations to be open 24/7. Our friends went on and on about the challenges of teaching these kids. Many of them are Indians (or the Canadian equivalent of native Americans). If all you know is Vancouver it's easy to get a misconception about what Canada is really like.
Indians?

So much bigotry squeezed into one paragraph.
 
Canada bashing time. Not sure why. Saudi Arabia is likely richer than Canada. Wouldn't want to live there either.
Nice thing about Canadians, we seldom get triggered. Imagine if I posted this.................
Ooops, we are happier. So much for the size of the wallet defining self-worth.
Or maybe if I posted this..........
Or if I posted this..........
Dang, Canada #6 safest, and where is the US?
So, as a poor Canadian who should be weeping in his cereal about not being as rich as Mississippi, ask me seriously why I should care?
 
Canada WTM (worse than Mississippi). That explains the posting content from our northern neighbors.
Considering your posting content, you are not doing the reputation of Americans any service, just sayin' :rolleyes:
 
Indians?

So much bigotry squeezed into one paragraph.
Maybe he meant people from India, after all, from what I understand, Americans aren't very good at geography........
 
Canada bashing time. Not sure why. Saudi Arabia is likely richer than Canada. Wouldn't want to live there either.
Nice thing about Canadians, we seldom get triggered. Imagine if I posted this.................
Ooops, we are happier. So much for the size of the wallet defining self-worth.
Or maybe if I posted this..........
Or if I posted this..........
Dang, Canada #6 safest, and where is the US?
So, as a poor Canadian who should be weeping in his cereal about not being as rich as Mississippi, ask me seriously why I should care?
The OP is bullshit. The significance of the premise behind it is imaginary.
 
No idea the metrics or data they used and I have no intention in spending time figuring it out . All I have to say is BS to the OP Title.
 
No idea the metrics or data they used and I have no intention in spending time figuring it out . All I have to say is BS to the OP Title.
The thread title is bigly BS.

Median income Canada $41,700 (2022).*
Median income Mississippi $28,732 (2022).**

*source WOWA
**source US Census
 
I have to admit, this surprised me.

Canada was supposed to be the anti-American success story for middle-class incomes. David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy wrote in 2014 in the New York Times that Canadians’ middle-class income had equaled Americans’ for the first time... Ian Austen and Leonhardt wrote for the New York Times about how middle-class Canadians were richer because of labor unions, government health care, stronger family values, and lower income inequality... At the Brookings Institution, Richard Reeves and Pete Rodrigue asked in a 2014 article, “Has the American Dream Moved to Canada?”...
All of these articles were written in 2014, and that’s because they had to be. As Scott Winship of the American Enterprise Institute has pointed out, 2014 was the only year when U.S. and Canadian median income were the same. Canada’s had been growing faster since roughly 2000, but once the gap was closed, U.S. median income began to take off the next year and hasn’t looked back. That year, 2015, was when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party took power in Canada, where they have been without interruption ever since....
A new report from the Fraser Institute, a Canadian free-market think tank, looks at income... and its findings are even worse for Canada. In a ranking of the 50 U.S. states and ten Canadian provinces by median earnings per person, all ten provinces line up at the bottom, occupying spots 51–60. Every U.S. state has higher median earnings per person than Alberta, the richest Canadian province....
Every state and province except Alberta saw increases in real median earnings between 2010 and 2022. But most U.S. states saw faster growth than their Canadian counterparts. British Columbia is the only Canadian province in the top half of the 60 total jurisdictions in earnings growth. Real earnings growth in Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, was slower than in every U.S. state.....

It is surprising in light of my own state's medium income as of '24 is almost $96,000.
 
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