- Joined
- Nov 12, 2012
- Messages
- 103,489
- Reaction score
- 25,983
- Location
- Houston, in the great state of Texas
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Slightly Conservative
It is irrelevant.Ok. You do not understand the elements necessary for firearm violence and think that a firearm is irrelevant.
You are not invested in discussion because you fail to contribute any intellectual effort.
Conversation requires active participation and you have failed to do the basic research to gain the threshold level of knowledge to formulate anything thoughtful or cogent.Please continue in the same vein, as explanation why you would rather talk about me than the topic.
Mr "guns are like viruses" is saying that.Conversation requires active participation and you have failed to do the basic research to gain the threshold level of knowledge to formulate anything thoughtful or cogent.
Conversation requires active participation and you have failed to do the basic research to gain the threshold level of knowledge to formulate anything thoughtful or cogent.
Ignorant statement. The CDC and other research organizations strongly disagree, but you know that, right?a gun laying on the ground endangers nobody
Reminded me of this scene - Crocodile Dundee (1986) Kangaroo Gun Scene2. An AR-15 is the perfect rifle to use in order to shoot feral hogs from ATV's in east Texas on my brother's ranch.
All this has been covered. Your lack of understanding is due to your failure to read, refusal to learn, and failure to participate thoughtfully in the exchange. Disingenuous repetition is just plain trolling.Remember when you claimed firearm prevalence is important to your arguments, but also claim it can't be accurately determined? Have you researched that yet?
So refusal to accept your falsehoods as truth is my problem?All this has been covered. Your lack of understanding is due to your failure to read, refusal to learn, and failure to participate thoughtfully in the exchange.
The irony is palpable.Disingenuous repetition is just plain trolling.
Nah.. We got them mostly at early dawn.Reminded me of this scene - Crocodile Dundee (1986) Kangaroo Gun Scene
Do you spotlight them at night too?
To exterminate pests? Who cares? Do you think we have some sort of dangerously low feral hog population?Reminded me of this scene - Crocodile Dundee (1986) Kangaroo Gun Scene
Do you spotlight them at night too?
All this has been covered. Your lack of understanding is due to your failure to read, refusal to learn, and failure to participate thoughtfully in the exchange. Disingenuous repetition is just plain trolling.
Ignorant statement. The CDC and other research organizations strongly disagree, but you know that, right?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) compiles data on unintentional child gun deaths. The most recent data released on the issue is from 2023.
Data from that year shows that 143 people ages 19 and younger died from unintentional injury from a firearm.
A 2023 study done by the CDC found that roughly three-quarters of unintentional child gun deaths between 2003 and 2021 involved a firearm that was stored loaded and unlocked.
14-year-old girl accidentally shoots self, dies while filming social media video
they are idiotsIgnorant statement. The CDC and other research organizations strongly disagree, but you know that, right?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) compiles data on unintentional child gun deaths. The most recent data released on the issue is from 2023.
Data from that year shows that 143 people ages 19 and younger died from unintentional injury from a firearm.
A 2023 study done by the CDC found that roughly three-quarters of unintentional child gun deaths between 2003 and 2021 involved a firearm that was stored loaded and unlocked.
18 and 19 year olds are adults. Not children. Why the lie?Ignorant statement. The CDC and other research organizations strongly disagree, but you know that, right?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) compiles data on unintentional child gun deaths. The most recent data released on the issue is from 2023.
Data from that year shows that 143 people ages 19 and younger died from unintentional injury from a firearm.
A 2023 study done by the CDC found that roughly three-quarters of unintentional child gun deaths between 2003 and 2021 involved a firearm that was stored loaded and unlocked.
14-year-old girl accidentally shoots self, dies while filming social media video
You can slice up the statistics different ways. Teenagers are, in many respects, children. 19 year olds are not fully adults but, that really does not matter. Children and young adults are disproportionately affected by firearm violence.18 and 19 year olds are adults. Not children. Why the lie?
That’s not even close to an apt analogy.Let me put it this way-- do you think the prevalence of influenza should include influenza in a lab or in dead, buried patients?
Well that would represent a risk. Or do you think ghost guns shouldn’t be counted since they are just a collection of parts that the person does the final milling. ???Maybe you want to include a package of parts that can be assembled into a firearm as contributing to prevalence.
Actually it would more be the other way aroundPerhaps you should include firearms in Canada or Mexico as part of the American firearm prevalence because an American can go into those countries and bring back a firearm.
Great. Then how do you count it at all since at noon four guns can leave storage and be used by four people hunting and then go back to storage at 7pmThose firearm become prevalent when they leave storage.
Yeah. You gun banners gotta lie.You presumption that every firearm everywhere contributes equally to firearm violence risk demonstrates you need for simplistic generalization.
Not skewing anything my friend. Don’t get upset because you’ve hoisted yourself on your own petard.Your meaningless attempt to skew the discussion is recognized as bogus.
Yet you dismiss that civilian firearms initially in “ secure storage, despite the fact that they can be stolen, given away or sold and end up I. The hands of criminals.You fail to recognize that civilian legal firearms produced the criminal firearm problem
Sport but you need to explain why we need to disarm Americans if you already admit that there is no reason to fearand you fail to recognize alternative responses to threat because you are chronically and deeply afraid.
See above .Too many firearms in the USA should address all your concerns for an explanation.
You are the one making the claims here. Not “ Canada “.Look to Canada for the answer if you are really interested.
Yeah because that's the age they're most often to be involved in organized crime.You can slice up the statistics different ways. Teenagers are, in many respects, children. 19 year olds are not fully adults but, that really does not matter. Children and young adults are disproportionately affected by firearm violence.
Misrepresenting statistics is kind of a big issue. I don't know why you're posting about crime and violence you don't give a shit about it. It's just a vehicle to set up your dictatorship.Rather than getting your panties in a wad, you should be concerned with the overall problem of firearm violence in America if you have any sense of awareness of the problem.
perfect analogy. Storage of both.That’s not even close to an apt analogy.
Stored firearms are less susceptible to theft or misuse. Even you know that.A firearm in secure storage can the next day be taken out and used . It can be stolen . It can be given to someone or sold.
Define the fractional risk compared to firearms in hand or unsecured.Well that would represent a risk. Or do you think ghost guns shouldn’t be counted since they are just a collection of parts that the person does the final milling. ???
Meaningless hypotheticalActually it would more be the other way around
Great. Then how do you count it at all since at noon four guns can leave storage and be used by four people hunting and then go back to storage at 7pm
How do you capture that in your use of prevalence.
Explain how firearm violence can occur without access to firearms.What you are admitting is that your statement that as prevalence of guns increases then firearm violence increases is complete bs because you have no idea what prevalence is doing.
Your concern is self-defense with firearms to be used against threat. You live in fear.Yeah. You gun banners gotta lie.
I have not been the one screaming about risk.
You are lost in confusion. Sorry for your comprehension problems. I am sure your rambling is due to your emerging recognition that your argument promoting firearms are fundamentally wrong.That’s your concept. You state there is risk from just having a firearm . But then dismiss that risk when you state prevalence.
Completely consistent. You seem unable to process the nuance or understand that secure storage changes firearm risk.Don’t get upset because your own logic doesn’t make sense to you.
Not skewing anything my friend. Don’t get upset because you’ve hoisted yourself on your own petard.
Yet you dismiss that civilian firearms initially in “ secure storage, despite the fact that they can be stolen, given away or sold and end up I. The hands of criminals.
Your own logic isn’t consistent.
Incomprehensible statementSport but you need to explain why we need to disarm Americans if you already admit that there is no reason to fear
The fear-mongering of gun culture is producing the perception of fear that promotes more firearms that then promotes more criminal firearm use. Vicious cycle.See above .
You are the one making the claims here. Not “ Canada “.
You claim first we should fear all the violence in America then in the next breath claim there is nothing to fear.
So please explain. Which is it?
All this has been covered. Your lack of understanding is due to your failure to read, refusal to learn, and failure to participate thoughtfully in the exchange. Disingenuous repetition is just plain trolling.
As has already been established, there is no such thing.Gun Violence
Gun violence is a leading cause of premature death in the U.S. and results in nearly 85,000 non-fatal injuries annually.www.apha.org
.....In the United States, gun violence is a major public health crisis and a leading cause of preventable premature death.
Motor vehicles is the leading cause of death among children. Why do you people keep peddling this proven lie?It is particularly stark among children and adolescents, a population for which firearm-related violence is the leading cause of death.
As has already been established, there is no such thing as gun violence.In 2022, more than 48,000 individuals, including more than 4,600 children and adolescents, died as a result of gun violence and many more suffered nonfatal gun injuries.
In addition to the direct loss of lives due to firearm violence, children and others are struggling with the mental health implications caused by the all-too-common acts of firearm violence in our schools, places of worship and other public venues where we gather with family and friends.....
18 and 19 year olds are not children. They are adults.You can slice up the statistics different ways. Teenagers are, in many respects, children. 19 year olds are not fully adults but, that really does not matter. Children and young adults are disproportionately affected by firearm violence.
Rather than getting your panties in a wad, you should be concerned with the overall problem of firearm violence in America if you have any sense of awareness of the problem.
Your source is an absolute lie. You are using a tragedy to forward a brain dead talking point you should be ashamed of yourself.Gun Violence
Gun violence is a leading cause of premature death in the U.S. and results in nearly 85,000 non-fatal injuries annually.www.apha.org
.....In the United States, gun violence is a major public health crisis and a leading cause of preventable premature death. It is particularly stark among children and adolescents, a population for which firearm-related violence is the leading cause of death. In 2022, more than 48,000 individuals, including more than 4,600 children and adolescents, died as a result of gun violence and many more suffered nonfatal gun injuries. In addition to the direct loss of lives due to firearm violence, children and others are struggling with the mental health implications caused by the all-too-common acts of firearm violence in our schools, places of worship and other public venues where we gather with family and friends.....
Why do you lie. Don't like their definition? Take it up with them. Think they'll listen to you?18 and 19 year olds are adults. Not children. Why the lie?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?