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Can Trump be tried and found guilty in a Federal Court after the impeachment aquitall?

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Would it be considered double jeopardy to have the Feds try Trump in a court of law once he has been acquitted in an impeachment trial? Is this apples and oranges? Anyone know?
 
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Can a US president be prosecuted after he leaves office?

This will be one of the toughest questions facing the Joe Biden administration. No president in US history has faced prosecution for actions taken in office after he stepped down, and Biden has said he would let the Justice Department decide whether to challenge that norm with Trump.

However, there are experts who say ‘yes’. They take the example of President Richard Nixon who was pardoned by President Gerald Ford in 1974 in order to avoid prosecution. Also, before he left office President Bill Clinton settled the case that the special prosecutor was ready to bring against him because he would not have immunity once out of office.

In the Nixon vs Fitzgerald case of 1982, the US Supreme Court ruled that the President is entitled to absolute immunity from legal liability for civil damages based on his official acts. The Court, however, emphasised that the President is not immune from criminal charges stemming from his official or unofficial acts while he is in office.

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Trump impeachment: Can the US president face criminal charges after he leaves office?

Raft of questions being raised, including whether Trump will be barred from holding office
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Yes he can.
An Impeachment is not a court of law, he could have not received jail time or Eve a fine.

If anything the impeachment would do him more harm than good as more senators found him guilty, and even more (like McConnell) would have voted guilty if he were still in office.

An actual jury does not care about polls and they hate traitors, terrorists and those that lead them...
 
independentusa said:
Would it be considered double jeopardy to have the Feds try Trump in a court of law once he has been acquitted in an impeachment trial? Is this apples and oranges? Anyone know?
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Guilty for what? He is subject to criminal prosecution if he commits a crime. There has to be proof.
 
independentusa said:
Would it be considered double jeopardy to have the Feds try Trump in a court of law once he has been acquitted in an impeachment trial? Is this apples and oranges? Anyone know?
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It would not. Impeachment is a civil procedure for removal from office, not a criminal trial.

That said, they'd have a hell of a tough time proving incitement, and they'd need to come up with a lot more evidence than what they provided in the impeachment proceedings, in order to fulfill the 3 prongs required to show incitement. They just don't remotely have a case that would stand up in a court of law for the charge in question.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Guilty for what? He is subject to criminal prosecution if he commits a crime. There has to be proof.
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58 out of 100 believed he was guilty (including McConnell)
You don't think that twelve people wouldn't convict after watching tbe thirteen minute video, tbe having victim after victim come forward. Including tbe oath keepers, proud boys etc that didn't get the pardons they expected???

Particularly with his current crack law team...
 
he won't be punished for the insurrection. however, we can punish his party at the polls. show up every election day to vote. it's going to take a lot of election cycles to flush the insurrectionists the right way.
 
Yes, he can be charged. NY is likely; GA is ______.
 
independentusa said:
Would it be considered double jeopardy to have the Feds try Trump in a court of law once he has been acquitted in an impeachment trial? Is this apples and oranges? Anyone know?
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Can Trump be tried and found guilty in a Federal Court after the impeachment aquitall?

Of course. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. It is a political event.
 
independentusa said:
Would it be considered double jeopardy to have the Feds try Trump in a court of law once he has been acquitted in an impeachment trial? Is this apples and oranges? Anyone know?
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They would actually have to supply evidence that he did something wrong in the first place.

Otherwise it's just going to be another dog and pony show for the media to fawn over.
 
Helix said:
he won't be punished for the insurrection. however, we can punish his party at the polls. show up every election day to vote. it's going to take a lot of election cycles to flush the insurrectionists the right way.
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Seeing as he had nothing to do with an insurrection, that actually never happened. Your post is missing some necessary points on it's reasoning.
 
Helix said:
he won't be punished for the insurrection. however, we can punish his party at the polls. show up every election day to vote. it's going to take a lot of election cycles to flush the insurrectionists the right way.
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Oh I will be very surprised if he isn't punished.
It may or may not happen in criminal court, but he has a shit load of civil suits headed his way.
Remember OJ was found not guilty but he lost EVERYTHING down to the rings on his fingers and bells on his toes...
 
Oborosen said:
They would actually have to supply evidence that he did something wrong in the first place.

Otherwise it's just going to be another dog and pony show for the media to fawn over.
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You mean like they did in tbe Senate where 58 people agreed be was guilty??.
 
GDViking said:
Oh I will be very surprised if he isn't punished.
It may or may not happen in criminal court, but he has a shit load of civil suits headed his way.
Remember OJ was found not guilty but he lost EVERYTHING down to the rings on his fingers and bells on his toes...
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The only issue here is that when all of this is said and done. Those trying to harm Trump are mostly going to actually set precedent against themselves for future cases.
 
Oborosen said:
Seeing as he had nothing to do with an insurrection, that actually never happened. Your post is missing some necessary points on it's reasoning.
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58 seconds senators who were there disagree...
 
GDViking said:
You mean like they did in tbe Senate where 58 people agreed be was guilty??.
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They didn't even manage to convince 2/3 that he was guilty. A jury trial requires unanimous juror agreement to convict. They're not going to get anywhere.
 
GDViking said:
You mean like they did in tbe Senate where 58 people agreed be was guilty??.
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It does not take evidence for someone to agree to something. The first impeachment trial was the same way, and seeing as the democrats had to practically threaten their own members to vote in step with the party. I wouldn't be surprised if much of that same tactic was going on here.

Still, no evidence was supplied that showed Trump actually incited anything.
 
Oborosen said:
The only issue here is that when all of this is said and done. Those trying to harm Trump are mostly going to actually set precedent against themselves for future cases.
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Nobody is afraid of trump anymore, his fangs have been pulled and be will spend the rest of his sad life in court and doing fundraisers trying to fund his defense team...
 
GDViking said:
Nobody is afraid of trump anymore, his fangs have been pulled and be will spend the rest of his sad life in court and doing fundraisers trying to fund his defense team...
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I don't recall anyone other then the democrats, being afraid of Trump. So you're statement is falling on a sour note at this point.
 
Gondwanaland said:
They didn't even manage to convince 2/3 that he was guilty. A jury trial requires unanimous juror agreement to convict. They're not going to get anywhere.
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Actually a lot more were convinced, they just didn't want to lose their jobs.
12 people with nothing to lose is a slam dunk...
 
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