MiddleoftheRoad
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I love seeing this silly argument. Tell me...what if a man does not want to marry a woman but wants to marry a man? How is it then equal? Explain why that should be prohibited?
No one is stopping gays from associating with whomever they please, though.
I can't believe how often seemingly reasonable people keep making this argument... It's so obviously ludicrous... To use my example above, it's like making a law saying that it is illegal to attend a Jewish temple and rationalizing it by arguing that it isn't discriminatory against Jews because they're still free to attend Christian Churches just like everybody else...
Some are stopping them from forming civil unions.
I haven't yet seen this alleged "right" gays are being denied. Not once in 4 years on DP, never.
I haven't yet seen this alleged "right" gays are being denied. Not once in 4 years on DP, never.
Maybe we should create such a right, but it does not exist today to claim it is being denied.
Like "factually inaccurate" wrong, or "disproved evidence" wrong, or "illogical interpretation" wrong, or any other hew of wrong you can dream up.
What makes the point of view that homosexuality is some kind of error automatically bigoted? Why bigoted specifically?
Originally Posted by Crunch
Got it.... so if a gay guy wants to marry a gay woman, he and she should have the same rights to do so as a straight couple.
He and she do have the same rights.
Its not a silly argument, its a fact. If a man doesn't want to marry a woman, thats fine. There is no law saying he must.
Straight people are allowed to marry people they find attractive. Gay people are not. Obviously you already know that though...
Straight people are allowed to marry people they find attractive. Gay people are not. Obviously you already know that though...
What the problem is, gays are first wanting to redefine the concept of marriage, then they want to claim they are being denied one of their basic rights.
They are as free to marry a person of the opposite sex as anyone else.... that is what marriage is.
So then call it like it really is. Gay people want additional rights.
So then call it like it really is. Gay people want additional rights.
They don't want to redefine anything. They want to be included in the institution of marriage.
What the problem is, gays are first wanting to redefine the concept of marriage, then they want to claim they are being denied one of their basic rights.
They are as free to marry a person of the opposite sex as anyone else.... that is what marriage is.
Here we go defining things again...you're going to get Jerry all riled up and he's going to go Captain Semantics on your ass.
Anyways, what most gays want I'm assuming is the same benefits afforded to married couples, benefits they weren't getting as civil unions, and as such they now want to take the word marriage to try and justify getting those benefits. Everyone is being a dick, across the board, both sides of the debate. It's not bigotry so much as it is stupidity from everyone involved. But, this post will likely get shot down/ignored and the debate will continue.
The rights would be for everyone. You'd be able to marry someone of your gender too.
So you agree that they want additional rights.
So then call it like it really is. Gay people want additional rights.
They can marry a person of the opposite sex just like everybody else, that is what marriage is.
Again, that makes no sense... They are GAY... You know what that means, so you know how silly that argument is...
Again, that makes no sense... They are GAY... You know what that means, so you know how silly that argument is...
Not silly at all.... marriage, as defined is a union between a man and a woman, gays have that right today.... what they want to do is redefine marriage as a union between anything and anything.
They want to change the definition, then claim they are being discriminated against…. That is the silly argument.
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