California WTF? A rant.

X Factor said:

I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).

No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.

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X Factor said:

I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).

No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.

/end rant

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beefheart said:

Like anywhere, it all depends where you are. I never have any issues in LA when I go there. All depends on your neighborhood, its still a great city there are many wonderful US and world cities that have the same issues, you just need a bigger view of all the good stuff, instead of focusing on the bad stuff.

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X Factor said:

I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).

No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.

/end rant

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Two years ago, L.A. voters overwhelmingly passed Measure HHH, a city bond to fund homeless housing. In 2017, they passed a county-wide sales tax increase called Measure H, to fund various homeless services. Despite all this new money flowing to a number of projects, tens of thousands of men and women still sleep on the streets. The situation has led to increasing impatience among some voters.

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Helix said:

the point was to focus on the bad stuff because socialism.

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beefheart said:

Like anywhere, it all depends where you are. I never have any issues in LA when I go there. All depends on your neighborhood, its still a great city there are many wonderful US and world cities that have the same issues, you just need a bigger view of all the good stuff, instead of focusing on the bad stuff.

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X Factor said:

I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).

No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.

/end rant

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Fledermaus said:

Because reality.

Typhus in city hall for example. Typhus. When was the last time you heard that word?

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X Factor said:

I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).

No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.

/end rant

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Casper said:

But if they are living on the streets isn't that them being held accountable?

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eohrnberger said:

Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia.

As you stated, place blame (and additional expense) on those who do work to take care of themselves rather than those who refuse to take care of themselves, and worse, to enable those who refuse to take care of themselves to make matters worse on those that are paying for it all.

Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia, coming to a Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia controlled city near you soon.

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Helix said:

the point was to focus on the bad stuff because socialism.

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beefheart said:

Like anywhere, it all depends where you are. I never have any issues in LA when I go there. All depends on your neighborhood, its still a great city there are many wonderful US and world cities that have the same issues, you just need a bigger view of all the good stuff, instead of focusing on the bad stuff.

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Mr Person said:

Perhaps he wants them locked in workhouses.

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EMNofSeattle said:

Yeah every city has issues, but liberal west coast American cities are off the charts.

Try visiting Santiago de Chile, you won’t see any derelict RVs, homelessness is uncommon, no litter, strong police presence who will arrest people who violate public order. And the population is similar to LA, similar climate, Mexico City looks better then LA as of 2019, I’ve been there too. So cities in other parts of world seem to know that you can’t tolerate these drug encampments

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beefheart said:

I've been to Santiago, its a nice place, I've been to Mexico City, so what?

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eohrnberger said:

Typhoid Fever, Typhus & Tuberculosis: Are L.A.'s Medieval Diseases Coming To Your City? - Forbes

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beefheart said:

Like anywhere, it all depends where you are. I never have any issues in LA when I go there. All depends on your neighborhood, its still a great city there are many wonderful US and world cities that have the same issues, you just need a bigger view of all the good stuff, instead of focusing on the bad stuff.

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Helix said:

the point was to focus on the bad stuff because socialism.

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Mr Person said:

Perhaps he wants them locked in workhouses.

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EMNofSeattle said:

Yeah every city has issues, but liberal west coast American cities are off the charts.

Try visiting Santiago de Chile, you won’t see any derelict RVs, homelessness is uncommon, no litter, strong police presence who will arrest people who violate public order. And the population is similar to LA, similar climate, Mexico City looks better then LA as of 2019, I’ve been there too. So cities in other parts of world seem to know that you can’t tolerate these drug encampments

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Helix said:

the point was to focus on the bad stuff because socialism.

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eohrnberger said:

Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia.

As you stated, place blame (and additional expense) on those who do work to take care of themselves rather than those who refuse to take care of themselves, and worse, to enable those who refuse to take care of themselves to make matters worse on those that are paying for it all.

Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia, coming to a Liberal / Progressive / Leftist utopia controlled city near you soon.

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Grand Mal said:

All the best places in the world to live are liberal/progressive/leftist utopias.

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trixare4kids said:

That's so easy for people who don't live around this squalor to say...
Have you no empathy for people whose neighborhoods are being taken over by people living in their streets, parks?

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