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Full article at The Guardian: Calais mayor 'disgusted' by UK policy on refugees | World news | The Guardian
The mayor of Calais has told British MPs that she is disgusted that the UK has not offered to take refugees from her town, and demanded economic aid from Westminster.France is a welfare state, though, or so I'm told. I guess the Blest Isle offers just that bit more? How could a refugee not be content with a coastal stay in France? Culture, cuisine, we're talking about the French?
Natacha Bouchart told parliament’s home affairs select committee that David Cameron had shown contempt for the people of Calais after he said an offer of asylum for 20,000 refugees would not extend to those people who had already arrived in Europe.
“I am disgusted by that. Understand the position we’ve been in for the last 15 years. If he doesn’t take refugees from Calais, that is proof that he is contemptuous of the population in Calais,” she said.
Nearly all of the migrants gathered in her town wanted to go to the UK, Bouchart said. “They demonstrate every day outside the town hall. Every day myself and my deputies say to them … if you want to stay in France you must claim asylum,” she said.
“Less than 10% want to stay in France. All the others want to come to England and we are going round and round in a circle. Even if we opened up 50,000 places in France they would not claim asylum in France.”
She claimed that people were attracted to Britain by the “ease of life”, citing the benefits system and access to jobs in the unofficial economy.Grist to the mill. France might be marshaling people on across the Dover Strait, I don't know, but this is surely a curiosity, is it not? I thought the whole discussion was about 'safety' and such?
“Migrants say that when they get to England they can easily find work here. They can find accommodation and have some kind of benefits every day,” she said.
[. . .]
After MPs pointed to claims that benefits for asylum seekers were more generous in France and the black market easier to access and more lucrative, Bouchart said she was simply repeating what those living rough in Calais had told her.
Sure, some refugees might not want to live in Serbia or in and around the Dinaric Alps, that's understandable. Hungary? Not tolerant (i.e. generous) enough. Austria? Maybe they're not fans of Viennese architecture, I guess. Ah, Germany, yes this is it! This is safety.
France, curiously, is not enough. And that is a mystery indeed.
She also demanded “economic aid” from the British government. She said: “I am looking for about €50m [£36m] from national authorities and European authorities.”If there's one thing you can depend on the French for, it's their ability to never be there when you need to depend on them.
Nobody is obligated to help out others if they don't want to, especially if doing so goes against their own national vested interests. Maybe instead of running away, the Syrians ought to stand up and take their country back. But nah, why work yourself when you can get someone else to do the dirty work?
I reckon you have years of experience being a civilian stuck in a civil war with no good sides while half your family is killed and your neighborhood gets barrel bombed.
Revolutions happen all the time. Americans revolted against British rule. We didn't go running away, begging someone else to hide us. Men (and it would have been women today as well) left their families, took up arms and fought for what they believed in. They knew that death was preferable to being slaves. Too bad there are so many people worldwide who don't have that fighting spirit to stand up to their oppressors.
The west shouldn't take any refugees until the gulf nations do. If the refugees don't want to live in a secular society, the west is no place for them. If refugees are willing/capable of living in a secular society, and the gulf states have taken most, then we in the west can take some.
That makes no sense, should we be assholes because the Gulf states are assholes? No good can come from that logic.
It may seem like we are being assholes, but why should we take refugees when their neighbors won't? They have a better chance of assimilating into that culture than into Europe's or the USA's.
Full article at The Guardian: Calais mayor 'disgusted' by UK policy on refugees | World news | The Guardian
The mayor of Calais has told British MPs that she is disgusted that the UK has not offered to take refugees from her town, and demanded economic aid from Westminster.France is a welfare state, though, or so I'm told. I guess the Blest Isle offers just that bit more? How could a refugee not be content with a coastal stay in France? Culture, cuisine, we're talking about the French?
Natacha Bouchart told parliament’s home affairs select committee that David Cameron had shown contempt for the people of Calais after he said an offer of asylum for 20,000 refugees would not extend to those people who had already arrived in Europe.
“I am disgusted by that. Understand the position we’ve been in for the last 15 years. If he doesn’t take refugees from Calais, that is proof that he is contemptuous of the population in Calais,” she said.
Nearly all of the migrants gathered in her town wanted to go to the UK, Bouchart said. “They demonstrate every day outside the town hall. Every day myself and my deputies say to them … if you want to stay in France you must claim asylum,” she said.
“Less than 10% want to stay in France. All the others want to come to England and we are going round and round in a circle. Even if we opened up 50,000 places in France they would not claim asylum in France.”
She claimed that people were attracted to Britain by the “ease of life”, citing the benefits system and access to jobs in the unofficial economy.Grist to the mill. France might be marshaling people on across the Dover Strait, I don't know, but this is surely a curiosity, is it not? I thought the whole discussion was about 'safety' and such?
“Migrants say that when they get to England they can easily find work here. They can find accommodation and have some kind of benefits every day,” she said.
[. . .]
After MPs pointed to claims that benefits for asylum seekers were more generous in France and the black market easier to access and more lucrative, Bouchart said she was simply repeating what those living rough in Calais had told her.
Sure, some refugees might not want to live in Serbia or in and around the Dinaric Alps, that's understandable. Hungary? Not tolerant (i.e. generous) enough. Austria? Maybe they're not fans of Viennese architecture, I guess. Ah, Germany, yes this is it! This is safety.
France, curiously, is not enough. And that is a mystery indeed.
She also demanded “economic aid” from the British government. She said: “I am looking for about €50m [£36m] from national authorities and European authorities.”If there's one thing you can depend on the French for, it's their ability to never be there when you need to depend on them.
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It may seem like we are being assholes, but why should we take refugees when their neighbors won't? They have a better chance of assimilating into that culture than into Europe's or the USA's.
It's just a whole lot of blablabla considering the fact you are not a Syrian civilian and you cannot relate to their suffering. It's a very nice historical anecdote you gave there from centuries ago.
By the way, tens of thousands of Syrians are fighting for one side or the other. But not everybody likes getting killed especially if all the options suck.
Sorry but I cannot take war trumping seriously on a forum, we cannot possibly conclude what we would do in their case. Have enough bombs fall around you while you have nothing to fight back with and judge again.
Because as GOP'rs like to point out we're an exceptional country?
LOL
It may seem like we are being assholes, but why should we take refugees when their neighbors won't? They have a better chance of assimilating into that culture than into Europe's or the USA's.
Their neighbours have done. Turkey has taken 1.9milion, Jordan took 1.2 million, Lebanon 1.1 million. (With a population of less than 5million to start with.) Israel has taken none. The Gulf States are not their neighbours, but they have been contributing massive amounts of humanitarian aid.
The west shouldn't take any refugees until the gulf nations do. If the refugees don't want to live in a secular society, the west is no place for them. If refugees are willing/capable of living in a secular society, and the gulf states have taken most, then we in the west can take some.
Their neighbours have done. Turkey has taken 1.9milion, Jordan took 1.2 million, Lebanon 1.1 million. (With a population of less than 5million to start with.) Israel has taken none. The Gulf States are not their neighbours, but they have been contributing massive amounts of humanitarian aid.
Because as GOP'rs like to point out we're an exceptional country?
LOL
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and the Emirites are not taking any refugees because they know a lot of refugees are either trashy rabble or straight up terrorists. I think they know a lot more about the character of these refugees than we do.
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