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What your babble boils down to is you advocating for more government control over business. In other words...socialism.
The point is to make money to pay your bills. If my skills can't justify whatever minimum wage is, then I can't legally work. A price floor on wages hurts those at the very bottom of the economic ladder.
No, you're not better off stealing things, because if the owner catches you, you might get killed or maimed. If the cops catch you, the outcome could be the same.
I can imagine she went out of business because she ate so much avocado toast.
All a business owner needs to do is pay an employee what they are worth...not what they need to survive.
$15 an hour?All a business owner needs to do is pay an employee what they are worth...not what they need to survive.
All business owners must follow laws. If her business isn't strong enough to surprise, welp, sorry. The strong businesses will.
This is about the minimum wage hike in California:
Labor is a cost, and the lower the cost, the better. Using government laws to artificially raise the cost of labor in order to benefit "the worker" is as stupid as using the government to artificially raise the cost of rent in order to benefit landlords (which the idiot government does, btw, especially in California).
This imbecile "fully supports" the law which forced her to close her business.
All of her employees lost their jobs because of the law.
All of her customers can no longer enjoy going to her coffee shop because of the law.
All three groups are harmed by the law - the owner, the workers, and the customers.
Nobody benefits.
It's a business transaction, just like any other. The employee wants as much money as possible and the employer wants to pay as little as possible. Putting a limit on how cheap I may sell my own labor does not in any way make me better off.
Of course it does.
That is how unions work. When you join a union, you aren't allowed to underbid union negotiated wages, or you will lose the benefits of union membership. Everyone in the union benefits from using collective bargaining power to keep wages higher for union members.
No it doesn't. If my skills are only worth $20 per hour in the labor market, and the minimum wage is $30, then I can't legally work. That does not make me better off.
The labor cartel prevents workers outside of the cartel from competing with its members. The first unions were formed to prevent newly freed blacks from competing with white workers. The labor cartel basically monopolizes the labor supply in order to benefit themselves. That's why unions had to be made specifically exempt from antitrust laws
What? @aociswundumho LIED to us?So it turns out the entire OP was a big fabricated lie.
The business closed because it was sharing space with a florist that decided to go online, and the entire space got leased out. A Fox affiliate thought they would get more clicks by demonizing blue states, and true to form @aociswundumho bought it hook, line and sinker.
It was a real shocker to me.
I worked at places that were stingy on wages but at the same time couldn't figure out why they had such a turn over. You just can't fix stupid.More than 50 years here as very small business owners/operators. We knew and know better than to stick it to our employees re wages and benefits.
Do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
This is about the minimum wage hike in California:
Labor is a cost, and the lower the cost, the better. Using government laws to artificially raise the cost of labor in order to benefit "the worker" is as stupid as using the government to artificially raise the cost of rent in order to benefit landlords (which the idiot government does, btw, especially in California).
This imbecile "fully supports" the law which forced her to close her business.
All of her employees lost their jobs because of the law.
All of her customers can no longer enjoy going to her coffee shop because of the law.
All three groups are harmed by the law - the owner, the workers, and the customers.
Nobody benefits.
Killing labor? Nobody is forced to work at the restaurant. Employees are free to seek better paying jobs elsewhere. The fact is they continued to work at the restaurant.So you are killing labor in your trolley problem to save capital and customer.
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