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In an address Wednesday evening at Princeton University, Clinton, D-N.Y., said it was a mistake for the U.S. to have Britain, France and Germany head up nuclear talks with Iran over the past 2 1/2 years. Last week, Iran resumed nuclear research in a move Tehran claims is for energy, not weapons.
"I believe that we lost critical time in dealing with Iran because the White House chose to downplay the threats and chose to outsource the negotiations," Clinton said
Kandahar said:Bush's big sin in Iraq wasn't acting unilaterally. If that was all he did, he'd have my unequivocal support because I know how difficult it is to get the UNSC to agree on anything. No, Bush's big sin in Iraq was lying about the justification for the war and weakening the United States to the point where it may be politically impossible (or at least very difficult) to defend ourselves from real threats like Iran.
I'm so sick of the "lying" lie.Kandahar said:Bush's big sin in Iraq wasn't acting unilaterally. If that was all he did, he'd have my unequivocal support because I know how difficult it is to get the UNSC to agree on anything. No, Bush's big sin in Iraq was lying about the justification for the war and weakening the United States to the point where it may be politically impossible (or at least very difficult) to defend ourselves from real threats like Iran.
Kandahar said:Bush's big sin in Iraq wasn't acting unilaterally. If that was all he did, he'd have my unequivocal support because I know how difficult it is to get the UNSC to agree on anything. No, Bush's big sin in Iraq was lying about the justification for the war and weakening the United States to the point where it may be politically impossible (or at least very difficult) to defend ourselves from real threats like Iran.
M14 Shooter said:I think you missed the irony.
M14 Shooter said:And, I love the "Bush lied" lie. The bigger the lie and the more you repeat it...
...the more you're encroaching on Bush's turf.M14 Shooter said:The bigger the lie and the more you repeat it...
Billo_Really said:Bush lied his ass off to get us into this illegal war and it is going to comeback to haunt him. This is just the beginning of the rise and fall of the Bush Reich.
KCConservative said:Taken directly from MoveOn.Org. Nice job, billo. Just keep telling yourself this. In fact, shout it to the mountaintops. Red State America loves it.
I didn't know we were voting for a new president this November.GarzaUK said:I guess we will know in November 2006 elections eh? Since the spike for Bush approval ratings after the Iraq elections is gone, I wander if it's all downhill for Bush after this.
I do agree with you that the US is a conservative country tho.
KCConservative said:I didn't know we were voting for a new president this November.
Yes there are. What does this have to do with the Bush spike? Do you consider your president's approval rating when voting for your congressmen?GarzaUK said:Isn't their house elections this year? Senate or Congress, I'm not too sure.
KCConservative said:Yes there are. What does this have to do with the Bush spike? Do you consider your president's approval rating when voting for your congressmen?
As in punishing someone for the poor job of someone else? Interesting. When I vote, I consider the candidates themselves, not the ones already elected.GarzaUK said:I don't have a President or a Congress man. :doh I have a Member of Parliament if that's what you mean, but British politics is different to your politics. I would have thought dissillusioned swing voters that voted for Bush may vote Democrat this year, for the bad job he has done, not only in Iraq but in other areas.
KCConservative said:As in punishing someone for the poor job of someone else? Interesting. When I vote, I consider the candidates themselves, not the ones already elected.
That's terrific. Unfortunately, quite a number of people aren't that smart. :2razz:KCConservative said:When I vote, I consider the candidates themselves, not the ones already elected.
Fortunatley, Red State America is.Binary_Digit said:That's terrific. Unfortunately, quite a number of people aren't that smart. :2razz:
Where the same people that complain about out "unilateral" invasion of Iraq are now complaining that we arent acting "unilaterally" enough regarding Iran?Kandahar said:I guess I did. What irony?
Odd. I dont remember making that argument. Youre setting up a strawman.Kinda like your lie that everyone in the US government and every other democratic government in the world believed that the WMD evidence was flawless and ironclad prior to the war. The more you repeat it
M14 Shooter said:Where the same people that complain about out "unilateral" invasion of Iraq are now complaining that we arent acting "unilaterally" enough regarding Iran?
M14 Shooter said:Odd. I dont remember making that argument. Youre setting up a strawman.
Kandahar said:In my opinion the complaints against "unilateralism" in Iraq weren't really about unilateralism persay, but the way in which it was handled.
Stinger said:They were precisely and unequivocally just that...........geez. To say otherwise no or to try and paint otherwise is absurd.
And that is just the point NOW Hillary complains that we went to other countries and listened to them, and consulted and acted with them instead of acting unilaterally.
I told you, I have not been to that website in almost a year now.Originally Posted by KCConservative
Taken directly from MoveOn.Org. Nice job, billo. Just keep telling yourself this. In fact, shout it to the mountaintops. Red State America loves it.
Then maybe they got it from you.Billo_Really said:I told you, I have not been to that website in almost a year now.
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