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Bryan Kohberger to plead guilty to all counts in Idaho college murders case

I’d say all the death row inmates fighting to have their penalties reduced to life in prison disagree with you
They would, but I was only speaking for myself.
I personally would prefer a quick death over having to spend my next 40-50 years in some hellhole prison.
 
They would, but I was only speaking for myself.
I personally would prefer a quick death over having to spend my next 40-50 years in some hellhole prison.
I’m sure any number of people on death row still fighting for their lives in the courts said exactly the same thing, when they weren’t swearing they’d never allow themselves to be taken alive.
 
What was his motive? We may never discover.

The families now must canarry on the best they can. I have seen other victims families say it never leaves you, everyday it's with you. You never get over it, you just get better at coping with the loss.
 
When did Americans come to the conclusion that the opinions of victims' families mattered much at all?

Whether they are angry or satisfied is irrelevant.
 
I’m sure any number of people on death row still fighting for their lives in the courts said exactly the same thing, when they weren’t swearing they’d never allow themselves to be taken alive
If you search Grok AI it'll say that approximately 10% of of death row inmates do not appeal their death sentence.

So there is a small percentage that do not want to spend the rest of your lives in prison, and just want to go ahead with the death penalty.

If I were sentenced to death I'd want the same thing.

That's all I was saying
 
What was his motive? We may never discover.

Stating the obvious, but he likely had some form of psychosis.

I don't know if I'm remembering the details accurately, but I seem to recall in the reporting after his arrest that there was an alleged incident a few years prior to the murders in which he got angry at a waitress/bartender for rejecting him. He reportedly showed up at a bar (alone), tried to hit on some female employee (awkwardly), and got demonstrably angry when she/they told him there was no interest beyond serving him. I think he had to be asked to leave, if I recall correctly.

Assuming that account is accurate, that to me is a red flag. It's someone who's isolated and frustrated and seems condemned to a life of involuntary celibacy (i.e., an incel). I've read that for many serial killers, particularly when males are the perpetrators and females are the victims, the motive is having a sense of power and dominance over their victims. It's a desire to act out in ways that make the perps feel like they have power to compensate for the apparent lack of it in most of their everyday interactions.

Maybe I missed it, but I am wondering what his connection is to the victims. My common sense tells me that he must have had some sort of encounter with them at some point, even if from afar or even if it were nothing more than a momentary encounter that nobody except Kohberger thought had any significance.
 
Stating the obvious, but he likely had some form of psychosis.

I don't know if I'm remembering the details accurately, but I seem to recall in the reporting after his arrest that there was an alleged incident a few years prior to the murders in which he got angry at a waitress/bartender for rejecting him. He reportedly showed up at a bar (alone), tried to hit on some female employee (awkwardly), and got demonstrably angry when she/they told him there was no interest beyond serving him. I think he had to be asked to leave, if I recall correctly.

Assuming that account is accurate, that to me is a red flag. It's someone who's isolated and frustrated and seems condemned to a life of involuntary celibacy (i.e., an incel). I've read that for many serial killers, particularly when males are the perpetrators and females are the victims, the motive is having a sense of power and dominance over their victims. It's a desire to act out in ways that make the perps feel like they have power to compensate for the apparent lack of it in most of their everyday interactions.

Maybe I missed it, but I am wondering what his connection is to the victims. My common sense tells me that he must have had some sort of encounter with them at some point, even if from afar or even if it were nothing more than a momentary encounter that nobody except Kohberger thought had any significance.
I am not qualified physchatrist so will refrain from passing judgement on others phsche.

My thoughts are with the family's left to carry on. People remember the name the perpautror, rarely do they remember the names of the victims.
 
The evidence was overwhelming, not surprised to see Kohberger take a plea in order to save his own ass from the death penalty.

I do feel terrible for the family and friends of the victims, so much of their lives upended and somewhat on hold, then all of a sudden a plea deal that did not sit well with some of them. I can only imagine the pain and difficulty of going through all this and... sudden, to plea guilty.
 
The evidence was overwhelming,

Certainly the circumstantial evidence was. Less physical evidence (based on what I last saw), though, and I wonder if that's why the prosecution was eager to close the case with or without the death penalty.
 
executions don't have to be - our system is set up to make lawyers a fortune and gig taxpayers

I'm in the camp of if even one person is executed by mistake, that's one too many. That's the risk of swift frontier justice.
 
Certainly the circumstantial evidence was. Less physical evidence (based on what I last saw), though, and I wonder if that's why the prosecution was eager to close the case with or without the death penalty.

From what I've read on this, it seems the prosecution was just as concerned about the death penalty as the defense was. Ultimately that sort of case going for the death penalty applies more pressure on the jury which ups the risk of mistrial or hung jury. Everything comes into play with a potential retrial if something goes wrong, appeals if the prosecution wins, various court costs and time, etc.

If I were in the prosecution's chair I would consider a plea in exchange for life without possibility of parole and no challenges or appeals. The strength of the case was clearly enough to force the defense to consider this option, it worked. They won't all work out this way.
 
Stating the obvious, but he likely had some form of psychosis.

I don't know if I'm remembering the details accurately, but I seem to recall in the reporting after his arrest that there was an alleged incident a few years prior to the murders in which he got angry at a waitress/bartender for rejecting him. He reportedly showed up at a bar (alone), tried to hit on some female employee (awkwardly), and got demonstrably angry when she/they told him there was no interest beyond serving him. I think he had to be asked to leave, if I recall correctly.

Assuming that account is accurate, that to me is a red flag. It's someone who's isolated and frustrated and seems condemned to a life of involuntary celibacy (i.e., an incel). I've read that for many serial killers, particularly when males are the perpetrators and females are the victims, the motive is having a sense of power and dominance over their victims. It's a desire to act out in ways that make the perps feel like they have power to compensate for the apparent lack of it in most of their everyday interactions.

Maybe I missed it, but I am wondering what his connection is to the victims. My common sense tells me that he must have had some sort of encounter with them at some point, even if from afar or even if it were nothing more than a momentary encounter that nobody except Kohberger thought had any significance.

They said he has some form of autism or asperbergers, mild.
 
If you're wondering what the $50,000 fines are for, its so any money thats sent to him gets confiscated so he can't use it in prison for commissary

 
It’s a shame we’ll never get a motive other than incel gone mad.

That's pretty much the motive. I'm not a forensic psychologist, but he seems a psychotic, in the absence of a professional description.
 
They would, but I was only speaking for myself.
I personally would prefer a quick death over having to spend my next 40-50 years in some hellhole prison.
The utility of the death penalty is attested to by the number of chickenshit maggots who will plead themselves into life w/o parole, in order to avoid any possibility of it.
 
But executions are expensive too. Given no appeals, and the associated court costs, life may actually cost tax payers less.
Executions are only expensive because it takes so long to get through the multiple appeals process. We could do an execution for less than $0.50 and then bill the murder’s family for the ammo.
 
Executions are only expensive because it takes so long to get through the multiple appeals process. We could do an execution for less than $0.50 and then bill the murder’s family for the ammo.
There have been times when innocent people have been sentenced to the death penalty. That’s why the appeals process exists.
 
There have been times when innocent people have been sentenced to the death penalty. That’s why the appeals process exists.
This guy is not one of them. Bullet or rope, and it should be done quickly.
 
This guy is not one of them. Bullet or rope, and it should be done quickly.
Maybe so but you shouldn’t make rules that apply only to some.
 
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