Breaking news Environmental issues should be in the breaking news section

[jfuh]

The recent shift to place all environmental related issues regardless of how current the topic is into the environmental section I find unacceptable.

1. there is no and was no reason given for this move
2. many environmental issues as posted are in fact breaking news and cross over into other topics - ie domestic policy, foreign affairs, administrative scandals ect.
3. breaking news section has more stringent requirements for citation to which a topic such as environment would more definitely require the use of citation of source to validate the reliability of the source
4. Why only environmental topics alone are subjugated to such a requirement and not all other topics?

Mods?

 

[Tashah]

The Mods discussed numerous forum/thread issues pertaining to global warming. Some of these issues were administrative and not obvious to the membership. Nonetheless, they existed and persisted. The unanimous decision was to delegate C&EI as the default forum for all GW threads.

One of the issues involved is that by virtue of its broad footprint and expansive signature, GW threads were being authored in a dozen different forums of the DP menu. There were identical and mirrored threads operating independently and yet simultaneously. Clearly, this unconstrained architecture engendered a dissonance upon the topic and acted as a disservice to members interested in this phenomena. This was just one of the pertinint GW issues under Moderator discussion and consideration.

To my knowledge, yours is the sole complaint registered since the realignment. Most member feedback is very appreciative that all news/information/discussion on GW can be easily accessed in one central location. As always, member input is both important and well appreciated.

 

[jfuh]

The Mods discussed numerous forum/thread issues pertaining to global warming. Some of these issues were administrative and not obvious to the membership. Nonetheless, they existed and persisted. The unanimous decision was to delegate C&EI as the default forum for all GW threads.

One of the issues involved is that by virtue of its broad footprint and expansive signature, GW threads were being authored in a dozen different forums of the DP menu. There were identical and mirrored threads operating independently and yet simultaneously. Clearly, this unconstrained architecture engendered a dissonance upon the topic and acted as a disservice to members interested in this phenomena. This was just one of the pertinint GW issues under Moderator discussion and consideration.

To my knowledge, yours is the sole complaint registered since the realignment. Most member feedback is very appreciative that all news/information/discussion on GW can be easily accessed in one central location. As always, member input is both important and well appreciated.

I'm particularily, but to no surprise deeply involved in this thus the complaint.
My main cause of concern is the lack of structure required of the sub forums vs that of the breaking news section where there are clear guidelines for citation. The broad scope of this is also applicable to various other topics as well. Granted we can have discussion on other topics but also relevant to the breaking news section in addition to the environmental section?

 

[Tashah]

I'm particularily, but to no surprise deeply involved in this thus the complaint.
My main cause of concern is the lack of structure required of the sub forums vs that of the breaking news section where there are clear guidelines for citation. The broad scope of this is also applicable to various other topics as well. Granted we can have discussion on other topics but also relevant to the breaking news section in addition to the environmental section?

The *Breaking News* forum is the most visited and utilized forum here at Debate Politics. To maintain this popularity, specific rules and guidelines were formulated to facilitate functionality and ensure fluidity. It would be counterproductive however, to apply this specific modality across-the-board. Perhaps a sub-forum in E&CI dedicated to global warming would be a more suitable arrangement?

 

[Binary_Digit]

Not to be too cynical or anything, but there seem to be several threads in the Breaking News section that should be moved, based on the same reasons why all GW threads are moved out of the Breaking News forum.

The "Gay Inmates Granted Conjugal Visits" thread could be moved to the Sex and Sexuality forum.

The "Venezuela Set to Shut Down Popular TV Station" thread could be moved to the Bias in the Media forum.

TheJerry Falwell dies at 73 thread could be moved to the Religion & Philosophy forum.

The Democrats hide pet projects from voters thread could be moved to the US Partisan Politics and Political Platforms forum.

The Anti-abortion bill becomes law in Oklahoma thread could be moved to the Abortion forum.

Heck we might not even need a Breaking News forum, since there's already a separate forum topic for just about everything.

But as I understand it, Breaking News is for breaking news regardless of the sub-topic it might otherwise fall under. That's why none of the above threads have been moved, nor should they. So why single out the topic of GW? Mirrored and identical threads are not unique to GW.

I remember when this decision was made, there were about 12 GW threads in the Breaking News forum because a lot of new information was coming out at the time. A problem like that in the BN forum does need to be addressed somehow, but deciding henceforth that GW news is categorically not "breaking news" may not have been the best solution.

 

[Tashah]

Re-read Post #2. I explicitly stated that there were numerous GW issues under discussion by the Moderator Team of which many are administrative and not obvious to the membership. I also plainly stated that "One of the issues involved"... concerned identical and mirrored threads. This was not the sole issue, but one of many that needed to be addressed.

We realize that no single solution can always please all of the people all of the time. I will say however that previous to this thread, there were no complaints whatsoever about the GW transfer to E&CI. Sometimes, it is necessary to impliment the 'most practical' solution rather than the 'most utopian'.

 

[jfuh]

Re-read Post #2. I explicitly stated that there were numerous GW issues under discussion by the Moderator Team of which many are administrative and not obvious to the membership. I also plainly stated that "One of the issues involved"... concerned identical and mirrored threads. This was not the sole issue, but one of many that needed to be addressed.

We realize that no single solution can always please all of the people all of the time. I will say however that previous to this thread, there were no complaints whatsoever about the GW transfer to E&CI. Sometimes, it is necessary to impliment the 'most practical' solution rather than the 'most utopian'.

That there were no complaints is not true, there were complaints just not in a thread post, but rather privately through pms.
The reasons that you'd given "identical threads, mirrored threads" are applicable to a number of other topics and not limited to climate and environment. I simply do not see why the issue was taken exclusively with topics of gw and environment.

 

[Stace]

Environment/Global Warming threads were specifically discussed due to the sheer number of threads generated. As Tashah has already pointed out, GW threads can be placed in a number of different categories and they were pretty much taking over the forum as a whole. It is much easier to keep them all in one place. As for the threads you mentioned, Binary Digit....they don't fit that same criteria. There are not so many threads that pertain to one particular sub category that they are overwhelming *Breaking News* or any other subcategory.

GW threads are not just moved from Breaking News. They are moved from ANY subcategory into the E/CI forum.