Joe Steel
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- St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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btw, I own guns for self-defense and recreation. The last thing I EVER EVER want to do is kill anyone. I just dont want to be harmed or killed. Are you suggesting I should allow someone to do so to me? Or wait for the cops, when they are more than 10 minutes away? (Presuming I can even call them.)
So....wrong again.
We all know the next gun massacre is just a matter of time. Betting on it, while it may seem cold, is part of human nature.
If you have guns, you are a danger to yourself, your family and the community. Everyone in contact with you should be concerned and should remain watchful.
If you have guns, you are a danger to yourself, your family and the community. Everyone in contact with you should be concerned and should remain watchful.
And denial is not just a river in Egypt.
You got burned attacking me earlier over the uzi comment and now you hate it that I was proven true not too soon after despite the efforts of some here. So live with it and get past it.
You and I both know darn well from these incidents in the past that the discussion "gun free zones" is not too far back in the distance in any of these things.
Sorry for bringing reality into this - but its often inconvenient. Necessary - but inconvenient for some.
"LET'S TRY NOT TO EVEN BRING THAT UP" !!!!!!!!!
Amazing!!!! And a white elephant in the room should just be ignored also and it will soon never have been there. Totally amazing.
A story about another school shooting where innocent kids are wounded and die and we are all suppose to pretend we are the three monkey statues?
Truly amazing!!!!!!!
The two are inseparable. Discussing gun death without discussing the NRA isn't logical.
The two are inseparable. Discussing gun death without discussing the NRA isn't logical.
That is pathetic because there are massive gun deaths in places like Mexico and no NRA. I doubt ANY of the gun crimes in DC or Chicago involve NRA Members.
Except this has happened in dozens of countries that don't have the same problem, or at least to the same extent. What makes the US different?We've spent close to 40 years teaching children....
... that they're super-special snowflakes who are entitled to everything good...
The teaching of evolution isn't unique to the US.... that they're just highly evolved animals, not immortal souls...
The US is the most religious of all western nations, yet it has the worst homicide problem of any developed, western nation.... that there is no God, or if there is there is no judgment by him...
The US has one of the lower abortion rates in the developed world, but the highest homicide rate. Next.... that it is okay to kill innocent babies in the womb if they are inconvenient...
The US is THE most God-fearing, bible-believing, church-attending of developed nations...with the highest homicide rate..... that things like the 10 Commandments are outdated and all morality is relative....
When is anyone going to be intellectually brave enough to investigate whether the relationship between ordinary Americans and violence and weapon-ownership might have something to do with your extraordinary homicide rate?... and then we wonder why stuff like this happens?
That is pathetic because there are massive gun deaths in places like Mexico and no NRA. I doubt ANY of the gun crimes in DC or Chicago involve NRA Members.
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Looks like you are salivating about another incident already.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste, right?
Not to worry, the Founding Fathers created an instrument to protect society from people who think like you.
If you really believed the crap you spew you'd be afraid to spew it lest some gun owner would shoot you
that you constantly insult gun owners means you really don't believe the vast majority of them are anywhere near as dangerous as you pretend we are. ...
The problem with the kind of Second Amendment absolutism stoked by the NRA and made into law by legislators and judges is that gun rights taken to extremes inherently imperil other rights. The raisons d’être of guns not used for hunting are self-defense and intimidation. A society where guns are unregulated and the threat of gun violence cannot be legally checked is a society where intimidation becomes the norm and freedom of speech can be easily abridged.
The Constitution is not frictionless machine in which all the parts move harmoniously together. Some of the rights it guarantees collide with other rights it guarantees. The elevation of the Second Amendment into a super-right has now diminished others—including those that the founders quite deliberately put first.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Correct. Tyranny and defense were so important, it was the second issue our Founding Fathers addressed. Allowing citizens to be left defenseless against the two was a potential form of suicide they would not allow to be abdicated to those who might demand it.
Did you actually read it? Definitely NOT debunked! Seems there is a difference of opinion regarding the control of other factors and the data available. Anything on Romania where the reverse happened in 1966?
No chance:
You wanted to start talking about guns right away.
This isn't about gun free zones
That's why they reserved the right to control the military to the People.
Marysville Pilchuck HS. One of my former schools. Details sketchy
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I've read it several times, I've also read the sources the article cites. The freakonomics assertion is ridiculously flawed and ignores a whole host of factors.
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