I don't think they are 100% sure but it seems like the most likely explanation by far.Furthermore, how sure are they that this latest outbreak is due to breach of protocol?
They know plenty. A mutation of Ebola making it just "more contagious" still wouldn't explain the nurse contracting if all the protective measures were followed to the letter. A mutation that would allow it to somehow circumvent such measures would likely affect a lot more than just one of the many staff who will have treated him.Do these health experts really know that much about Ebola? Could ebola have mutated that it's even more so highly contagious now? Somehow I get the sense that what we're being told in news conferences are just something to avoid panic.
I don't think there are any measures the general public need to take beyond normal hygiene and common sense. What are you suggesting?If they're not sure about ebola, they should just say so, and start advising people to be more cautious in public.
Mutations don't make virus's into magical beings. They have to physically pass barriers somehow. if the barrier is present, they can't pass.
'Breach of protocol' led to Ebola infection of Dallas hospital worker who treated Liberian
The hospital worker, a woman who was not identified by officials, wore protective gear while treating the Liberian patient, and she has been unable to point to how the breach might have occurred, said Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Duncan was the first person in the U.S. diagnosed with Ebola.
The CDC confirmed Sunday afternoon that the woman had tested positive for Ebola -- the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.
Read more: 'Breach of protocol' led to Ebola infection of Dallas hospital worker who treated Liberian | CP24.com
If it's indeed breach of protocol - this would be either due to incompetence, or negligence. That a breach had happened before (involving Duncan) at this same hospital....is not so reassuring, to say the least.
Furthermore, how sure are they that this latest outbreak is due to breach of protocol?
Do these health experts really know that much about Ebola? Could ebola have mutated that it's even more so highly contagious now? Somehow I get the sense that what we're being told in news conferences are just something to avoid panic.
If they're not sure about ebola, they should just say so, and start advising people to be more cautious in public.
What do you think?
The breach was the allowed travel of a Liberian National out of a Nation in the middle of a Ebola outbreak.
Its going to get ugly if she doesn't survive.
People dont trust this administration already and the CDs continued mitigations aren't going to mean a hill of beans if a healthy young woman with access to the best health care in the world doesn't survive.
Mutations don't make virus's into magical beings. They have to physically pass barriers somehow. if the barrier is present, they can't pass.
'Breach of protocol' led to Ebola infection of Dallas hospital worker who treated Liberian
The hospital worker, a woman who was not identified by officials, wore protective gear while treating the Liberian patient, and she has been unable to point to how the breach might have occurred, said Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Duncan was the first person in the U.S. diagnosed with Ebola.
The CDC confirmed Sunday afternoon that the woman had tested positive for Ebola -- the first known case of the disease being contracted or transmitted in the U.S.
Read more: 'Breach of protocol' led to Ebola infection of Dallas hospital worker who treated Liberian | CP24.com
If it's indeed breach of protocol - this would be either due to incompetence, or negligence. That a breach had happened before (involving Duncan) at this same hospital....is not so reassuring, to say the least.
Furthermore, how sure are they that this latest outbreak is due to breach of protocol?
Do these health experts really know that much about Ebola? Could ebola have mutated that it's even more so highly contagious now? Somehow I get the sense that what we're being told in news conferences are just something to avoid panic.
If they're not sure about ebola, they should just say so, and start advising people to be more cautious in public.
What do you think?
Maybe we aren't sure about it's contagion possibilities. I've heard there's danger of it mutating. Maybe it can mutate into being airborne. But how on earth would one be more cautious in public? Only thing I can come up with is to stop wishing fellow parishioners peace during service with a handshake. And that's probably a good policy anyhow.
I would think that depends on the permeability of the barrier.
Maybe we aren't sure about it's contagion possibilities. I've heard there's danger of it mutating. Maybe it can mutate into being airborne. But how on earth would one be more cautious in public? Only thing I can come up with is to stop wishing fellow parishioners peace during service with a handshake. And that's probably a good policy anyhow.
Washing hands. I also like to wipe down things like computers, door knobs, phones, keys, etc. That will cut down on many viruses.
yes. It depends on that, and not on any particular mutation of the virus. there's no genetic change that lets you walk through walls.
Why does everyone discussing this subject make the idea of travel restrictions into 100% block or nothing?
It was NEVER the "Plan", before Obama, to block ALL travel to Hot Zones.
It was the plan to stop travel for Tourism, Non-Essential Business, and non-disease related research.
It was the plan to require those returning from Hot Zones to go through thorough monitoring, including a period of remote location isolation.
That is not at all the same thing as blocking all travel to and from a Hot Zone!
Why limit the options, in the discussion, to the two extremes, rather than include what was the decades long held "Plan" before President Obama.
If we had held to the "Plan" then the guy from Dallas, Thomas Duncan, would have had the option to travel to Liberia, and back again, for essential familial reasons, but on his return, for the protection of his family, and many others, he would need to spend several weeks in government provided, free of charge, Isolation.
Given that option, any loving and responsible family member, would have opted to go the official route, to protect their family.
Anyone deliberately evading the requirement is a Terrorist!
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That you know of.
There's danger of Ebola mutating to become airborne much like there's danger of an asteroid striking your house tomorrow. It can theoretically happen, but we have no evidence suggesting it will and planning your life around that possibility seems foolish.
Heres my view-Closing entry from a country currently experiencing the greatest health threat since HIV is warranted. Im not saying people can't go there, Im saying they should not be able to come here. Just until the pandemic with a 50-90% mortality rate dies down.
Beyond that, the current plan has demonstrably failed-that says enough for me.
There is an adequate viral load in one drop of saliva for the right cough, sneeze, or splatter of body fluid to transmit the disease-and that effect would be magnified in confined quarters. It seems to me that being cautious is appropriate.
What if I told you there was another virus that kills more people every year than ebola kills in a decade, and that it transmits easier, and that we aren't using any quarantine protocols?
Yes, but this conversation is about ebola developing magical powers to pass through solid objects. So don't talk to me about caution.
Yes, but this conversation is about ebola developing magical powers to pass through solid objects. So don't talk to me about caution.
I practice inpatient internal medicine-I know.
What if I told you there was another virus that kills more people every year than ebola kills in a decade, and that it transmits easier, and that we aren't using any quarantine protocols?
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