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It looks like congress was trying to infringe on the presidents powers through the defense budget bill. If the GOP doesn't take Obama to court for breaking their law, then I think it safe to assume the statute is probably unconstitutional. Besides I think it's to the GOP's advantage that the court doesn't decide the case because it allows them to continue to falsely accuse Obama of breaking the law. See how that works? lol
Did you see the story on Bergdahl's father? The man grew a long beard and learned the language while his son was captive, and stated he would go get his son himself if necessary! He actually looked like a member of the Taliban, so he may have tried!
Greetings, Lutherf. :2wave:
You won't send out teams to go renegading across no-man's land looking for a deserter.
The Tals used Bergdahl as bait in several ambushes.
No. But if you have some basic information on where to look you're certainly going to do that and it's my understanding that's exactly what happened. From what I've read it seems that the military started by checking in with local elders and that the Taliban guys made demands right off the bat.
https://wikileaks.org/afg/event/2009/06/AFG20090630n1790.html
It's yet to be official, but a lot of folks with more credibility than Bergdahl have confirmed it.
There's even a credible suggestion that not only is Bergdahl a deserter, but possibly a collabarator.
Report: “Many” in intelligence community fear Bergdahl may have been an active collaborator with the Taliban « Hot Air
That is a possibility. But then if he was a deserter then why didn't the intelligence community object to his promotion in absentia to sergeant in 2011? Why would he be in line for another promotion, to staff sergeant, this month? I don't think he is a hero....but...but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.
Wikileaks leaked some classified military memos from the day that Bergdahl disappeared and at that time the only info they had was a Taliban email interception saying he was kidnapped while using a latrine and a report of an American with a camera asking villagers if anyone spoke English and then followed by his subsequent capture because of a sighting of a man with a bag over his head getting escorted away in a white vehicle surrounded by motorcycles.
(CRIMINAL EVENT) KIDNAPPING RPT B CO 1-501 PIR : 0 INJ/DAM - Kabul War Diary
Some info about the Patika Province where Bergdahl was stationed....
US Operations Paktika Province | Video | C-SPAN.org
Obama signed the damn thing into law! He wasn't worried about it's constitutionality, then.
We have word from multiple sources in the military, guys in his unit that say he called them after he deserted & told them he did so.
That is a possibility. But then if he was a deserter then why didn't the intelligence community object to his promotion in absentia to sergeant in 2011?
Yes, it was very clever how the GOP stuck an unconstitutional statute into the 2012 defense budget bill. Obama had to sign it into law so the military could get paid. But Obama also took an oath to uphold the constitution and that means he isn't obligated to enforce unconstitutional laws passed by congress. Hence, the signing statement.
Because most people think it is just fine that the Administration got the guy out of captivity. It just isn't as emotionally volatile as is the VA scandal or, for many, Benghazi. And it doesn't hurt Hillary.
The executive branch is not an arbiter of what is constitutional. That's why we have three branches of government.
Yes, it was very clever how the GOP stuck an unconstitutional statute into the 2012 defense budget bill. Obama had to sign it into law so the military could get paid. But Obama also took an oath to uphold the constitution and that means he isn't obligated to enforce unconstitutional laws passed by congress. Hence, the signing statement.
He deserted his post. 6 men directly died in operations to find him.there are 1000's of people just like these 5 individuals who are killing. 5 more makes NO difference!! again 5 more makes NO difference!!
NONE!!!!!!!
this person will be back with his family and friends, those who love and care about him.
what's your care? politics?
The congress has the authority to legislate the laws, but it doesn't have the authority to tell the executive branch how to execute the laws....and that is what that statute tried to do.He took an oath to faithfully execute the laws, too. The Executive Branch doesn't have the authority to decide what's constitutional and what isn't.
I think it's very emotionally volatile because of:
1) the great sympathy for the prisoner
2) the fear that the released Taliban will kill
and most of all
3) there's the appearance of the (frequently detested) president ignoring Congress, the Constitution, and acting alone. This is a very very frightening thing for conservatives.
A President who blatantly and often violates the law should frighten everybody.
The executive branch is not an arbiter of what is constitutional. That's why we have three branches of government.
I'm pretty sure the executive branch has studied the constitution and know where their authority lies. But I seriously doubt that congress does. It will be interesting to see if congress takes the issue to court....I'm guessing they won't because they can get more political mileage out of falsely accusing Obama of breaking the law than they can having their statute struck down as unconstitutional.
The congress has the authority to legislate the laws, but it doesn't have the authority to tell the executive branch how to execute the laws....and that is what that statute tried to do.
Yes, it was very clever how the GOP stuck an unconstitutional statute into the 2012 defense budget bill. Obama had to sign it into law so the military could get paid. But Obama also took an oath to uphold the constitution and that means he isn't obligated to enforce unconstitutional laws passed by congress. Hence, the signing statement.
it allows them to continue to falsely accuse Obama of breaking the law. See how that works? lol
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