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Boeing Machinists Approve Contract To Secure 777X Work


What is a "reasonable wage"? For instance, using glassdoor.com I compared wages and came up with this...

Engineer in SC = $73,607.

Production assembly = $15. P/Hr. to $20. P/Hr.

vs.

Engineer in WA. = $87.703 Which is >$14K

Production assembly in WA. = $20.57 P/Hr. Which is >$.57

http://www.glassdoor.com/

So, while more technical degrees are substantially higher in WA. as opposed to SC, hourly wage on the line seems to be pretty close.

So, this argument of "reasonable" considering cost of living, and equal factors is a non factor.
 

Sounds eerily like what the Federal Government has done to Social Security....
 
rathi said:
Boeing is currently building 1.5 aircraft a month in Charlotte when their schedule called for 3. Boeing SC shifts message on North Charleston production goals – The Post and Courier
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So, you're basing it on an opinion piece? Ok. True enough that 3 per month is not being achieved (yet), it is not realistic for you, or the column writer to make the assumption that the workers are taking longer to get to speed. I in fact provided an article that could equally make the excuse in delivery, citing the paint facility. The truth is complex in a product that large.
 


Cost of living here in W. WA is much higher than in SC.
 

Nice excuses.

No one is punishing success with reasonable wage packages that reflect the current economic environment.
 
Just anecdotally, I know alot of Boeing workers. Many different roles. Mostly great people.

I rented my bungalow out to a Boeing mechanic. She was an unstable (under a Dr's care) woman who was almost continually drugged up. And off to work she went.

She lasted 3 months before I kicked her out.
 
Lursa said:
Cost of living here in W. WA is much higher than in SC.
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Absolutely, that's what I am saying....Dollar for dollar, those working in the plant in SC are making as much, if not more, in the case of line production, as WA.
 

You claim is so ridiculous that nobody even at Boeing would throw around such a lame excuse. Pretending that painting could result in 50% production slowdowns would get you laughed out of the aerospace industry.
 
rathi said:
You claim is so ridiculous that nobody even at Boeing would throw around such a lame excuse. Pretending that painting could result in 50% production slowdowns would get you laughed out of the aerospace industry.
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Well, I see at least you are consistent in jumping to your false conclusions. No where did I say that it accounted for a 50% production slowdown. This is a new operation, and it may take longer than realized to get to speed, but they are committed to building them here, (which IMHO is a good thing) and are further investing in the area to bring the paint facility to Charleston as well...If it were such a failure as you describe, then they wouldn't be doing that.
 
j-mac said:
Absolutely, that's what I am saying....Dollar for dollar, those working in the plant in SC are making as much, if not more, in the case of line production, as WA.
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Thats likely accurate. WA median income for 2012 was $68k. SC was $42k. Using the wages from the glassdoor website, Boeing workers in SC are probably making more considering cost of living is certainly impacted by median incomes. Have seen this first hand living in MA. Higher median income but cost of living is through the roof.
 

You mean a climate of greed from multi billion dollar corporation?
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
You mean a climate of greed from multi billion dollar corporation?
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Dont whine. If you dont like it, go out and make your own millions. Lots of people still do.
 
Lursa said:
Dont whine. If you dont like it, go out and make your own millions. Lots of people still do.
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That's a rather glib reply. These people don't want to make millions. That is not at all the expectation.
 

i never said anything about cheap labor that is a strawman. I said the company is looking to shed legacy costs. which is exactly what it has done. the problem with pensions is that they continue to balloon out of control to the point that the company can no longer pay them. the shift to the new system will help protect boeings future investments and business model. they no longer have to sit and continue to pay people that no longer work for that company.


Cars are nothing like airplanes. The build standards are light years apart.
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Yet you have the same type of process no matter if you build it in WA or SC. the difference is going to be setting up the new site to run as efficiently as your other site.
 
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