Blue States Can’t Have Nice Things

[americanwoman]

Show me a well-run, wealthy Republican state, and I will show you a state burying 140 victims from a flood because the state and county was too cheap to install a warning system in a known flash-flood zone.

I think you are forgetting for every 140 victims, one child with a cut from a nail at a public playhouse got a band aid and the nail was fixed.

 

[americanwoman]

The OP had a dozen of them. You refused to interface with the information from all of them.

Oh like the farm is Utah from the OP. One quick google review search shows their animals aren't as cared for as a random nail.

I guess that whole "red" state must be a piece of shit place, eh?

A horse here has open wounds with flies visibly laying maggots in them. I called the farm to express concern, and they claimed they were “spraying fly repellent” and monitoring it. But this wound is already darkened, visibly open, and fly infested. These signs are consistent with myiasis (flystrike). This condition is extremely painful and can lead to infection, sepsis, and death. It requires veterinary care, including wound cleaning, debridement, pain relief, antibiotics, and protective covering, and not just spray. This was disturbing to witness, especially with my small child present. Animal neglect is not acceptable in any setting, especially a public farm with a lot of children. At a minimum, the law requires that injured animals receive appropriate care. I sincerely hope they improve standards and are educated on equine wound care and hygiene, because this is not it.

 

[Michael Cole]

The entire state of Illinois outside Chicago is one big farm. The state ranks #2 in corn production and #1 in soybeans. Illinois is also very blue.

Showing differences between ag/rural communities and cities is a valid argument. Attempting to show differences in governance between D and R states using a glorified farm-turned-petting-zoo is a big fail. Foolish way to begin the argument.

 

[Trumpetman]

Yes. Wha'cha lookin' for?

Apparently not information since you've said you can't provide if without bring a credible source. You haven't provided that so any info you provide can't even be discussed. It has to be discarded.

My standard involves answering direct questions. You fail.

No your standard was to disregard the OP complaining that the author was wasn't credible. Then attempt to duplicate his efforts while declaring yourself credible.

You can keep wasting your time with nonsensical word salad weave, but I'm not reading it. I presented my argument, which shows the lunacy of the OP; it has you stuck, and you resort to babbling responses.

You presented no argument. I'm sorry if holding up a mirror to your reasoning makes you see word salad. Look in that mirror to see the problem.

Not interested in babble.

Since the hypothesis involves connecting zoos to governance, again, what does the state of the Animal Ark say about governance in swing states?

That wasn't the hypothesis. The hypothesis was why are blue cities and states outsourcing their services to non-profits who fail to deliver. You didn't understand that because you didn't read it after dismissing it as written by a ticket scalper. Now you're mad that you've been dismissed using your own criteria.

The University of Nevada has a small farm in the city. Just south of Sparks and east of the airport. So, since the OP involves connecting farming to governance, what does the university having a farm in the middle of a swing county in a swing state tell you?

The correct answer is, "Nothing." The OP is nonsense.

Your misunderstanding is the nonsense.

 

[Trumpetman]

So a right winger is straight up admitting that privatization is the answer to almost none of our ****ing problems, glad we cleared that up.

No the OP is noting that blue governments are calling their privatization efforts "non-profits."

No one here has addressed that point yet.

 

[Michael Cole]

Apparently not information

Yes, already covered. Not reading the word salad. Your argument fails. You can accept the futility of connecting farms and zoos to party governance of states, or you can continue to waste your time.

 

[Trumpetman]

Oh like the farm is Utah from the OP. One quick google review search shows their animals aren't as cared for as a random nail.

I guess that whole "red" state must be a piece of shit place, eh?



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Can you link to the review?

I mean we can't believe your link since you might be a ticket scalper and haven't proven yourself as a source but give it a try anyway.

 

[americanwoman]

Can you link to the review?

I mean we can't believe your link since you might be a ticket scalper and haven't proven yourself as a source but give it a try anyway.

I see you are catching on. Then scroll down to a week ago review from Kenneth Cho. Since you are the trusting sort, here is another anecdote about that farm.

But it doesn't have the narrative, red state bad service, so perhaps just keep scrolling.

Google Search

 

[Trumpetman]

I see you are catching on. Then scroll down to a week ago review from Kenneth Cho. Since you are the trusting sort, here is another anecdote about that farm.

I'm not catching in the way you imagine. I'm holding you to your own standard. I'm not taking YOU at your word. I'm checking your sources even when you claim they are good.

But it doesn't have the narrative, red state bad service, so perhaps just keep scrolling.

No what it has is you clicking on the worst review out of 4,589 reviews with an average rating of 4.7 out of 5 stars.

Google Search

Your source is "Kenneth Cho" who has given two reviews. One was 1 out of 5 stars. The other was 2 out of 5 stars.

He doesn't seem especially positive and given your own standard, nothing from him can be trusted.

 

[WisconIndependent]

It needs the national guard deployed to keep it safe.



You must not be familiar with California. The area the Olympics is taking place is in basically a large chunk of Southern California. Temecula is over 70 miles away from Los Angeles.

Let's do math. Area of a circle that has a radius of 70 miles. That is 15400 sq miles.



Your argument is ridiculous. You're saying "look how great the city of Los Angeles is when we give it a surrounding area to include that is larger than Massachusetts or New Jersey."

YOu do realize that the blue states send more money to the Fed than they get back while the Red states get more money from the Fed than they send in. If the Blue states stopped sending the extra in, the Red states would collapse as they would no longer be able to support the programs they have without the Blue States money they now receive.

 

[Loulit01]

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MAGA continues to embarrass itself. Every accusation is a confession.

 

[Trumpetman]

YOu do realize that the blue states send more money to the Fed than they get back while the Red states get more money from the Fed than they send in. If the Blue states stopped sending the extra in, the Red states would collapse as they would no longer be able to support the programs they have without the Blue States money they now receive.

No that's not true at alll. Do you think they just hand the money to these states or do the states get it for facilites, services and other things that happen in those states?

If my state has five military bases and an oil pipeline and your state wants no military bases and pipelines that isn't mean stealing from you and giving it to me. The Federal monies follow Federal activities.

The largest amount of Federal outlays are miilitary, SS and Medicare. Which of those are doled out based on being a red or blue state?

 

[Diving Mullah]

Why Blue States Can’t Have Nice Things

In the tangle of outsourcing, no one is actually in charge.

www.persuasion.community

Red states actually deliver services. Blue states pat themselves on the back for their empathy for charging double but delivering half as much in services.



I don't want to quote the entire article but it's a good read and starts to get to the bottom of why so many services in so many blue states and cities just can't seem to be delivered. Lots of direct links to what is referenced in this story as well that are quite illuminating, especially with regard to how well those state run grocery stores are likely to work. The nonprofit/industrial complex makes it so no one is accountable, no one delivers much of anything, but everyone gets paid while the constituents suffer.

Like Trump with his not-so-subtle case of penis envy, after reading all your posts bashing "how bad the blue states are," one can’t help but wonder—how bad is your Blue State Envy?


Seriously, if you’re so thrilled to be living in a red state, why do you spend so much time obsessing over the blue ones? Shouldn't you be off enjoying your "freedom" and cheap real estate?


Meanwhile, over here in the land of smog, startups, and seven-dollar lattes, we’re pretty chill about who moves in or out. We pay our fair share, deal with the higher cost of living, and still manage to fuel over 60% of the nation’s food production and drive the largest economy in the world. Yeah, it gets messy. And crowded. That’s the price you pay for progress, diversity, and being on the bleeding edge of innovation.


Or, you know, you could just sit on your porch yelling at cow pies about how terrible blue states are.


I choose Option A.

Diving Mullah

 

[Luce]

Maybe "nice things" in this context means "methamphetamine."

 

[markdc]

Why Blue States Can’t Have Nice Things

In the tangle of outsourcing, no one is actually in charge.

www.persuasion.community

Red states actually deliver services. Blue states pat themselves on the back for their empathy for charging double but delivering half as much in services.



I don't want to quote the entire article but it's a good read and starts to get to the bottom of why so many services in so many blue states and cities just can't seem to be delivered. Lots of direct links to what is referenced in this story as well that are quite illuminating, especially with regard to how well those state run grocery stores are likely to work. The nonprofit/industrial complex makes it so no one is accountable, no one delivers much of anything, but everyone gets paid while the constituents suffer.

People are voting with their feet and fleeing Blue states like they're the plague.

Mark