Joe Steel
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Really? What "crimes" has Bundy committed??
Especially the administration that first passed the Patriot Act.Patriotism is the love of one's country, not the love of government. Statists tend to muddle the two.
Especially the administration that first passed the Patriot Act.
Who are your statists, since you're accusing ?
Should be obvious, even to you. Anyone who puts their love of government over their love of country.
I don't believe anyone in the USA loves their government more than their country.
In fact, this is just more false equivalency from the crowd that wants to claim the Patriot card .
No, this is about bureaucrats in the BLM speculating whether to make a recommendation that the President exercise a power that he already has.
On a scale of 1 to 10, this particular conspiracy theory gets a -3.
He's been stealing from the United States for 20 years and has been making seditious statements about doing it.
Has he been charged with any crimes??
Baloney, the way the BLM is using federal lands is unconstitutional period. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.
The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise or any other whim they may have.
The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land. For your convenience I have provided the wording from our Constitution.
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--
You've misinterpreted the text. Clause 17 gives Congress control of certain parcels of land acquired for certain purposes but nowhere prohibits acquisition for other reasons.
Hmmmmm... secret document?... only obtained by some obscure news channel? Reveals power grab by the white house?
I detect the strong odor of BS...
To my knowledge, no. That doesn't mean he's not stealing. He's been using government property with absolutely no intention of paying for it. That's theft for all practical purposes.
I haven't misinterpreted anything and Madison's Federalist Paper #45 proves so. I suggest you give it a read.
The purpose of the Constitution is to divide the power between the federal and the state to insure the protection of individuals and their rights, not the protection of tortoises, spotted owls, frogs or any other environmental whim of special interest groups or for political favors. What is going on with federal land grabs is the result of not adhering to our laws and allowing an Authoritarian federal government to exist and it needs to stop.
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