Evil serves a training purpose...
That is a manifestation of man defining it.random and senseless
That is a manifestation of man defining it.
That may not be true.
Purposeful and determined mass destruction is supporting my point even more. Thanks.
:doh
Still just man made.
Human definitions are as man made as youThe religious claim human behavior is divinely caused. That mass murder and genocide and mass destruction from natural causes are all to "test" the faith of the believers -- therefore divinely purposed.
If they are man made then they are not divine.
Human definitions are as man made as youknowthink their beliefs are.
:doh You obviously do not understand the premise.
IDK, is that the way you look at it?Did 250,000 people die in a tsunami across the planet so that people in this country are tested in their belief to a supernatural being, or not?
Where those people just a prop for the use and utility of believes to one specific religion all the way around the world from where the disaster happened?
:dohThere is no way to refute that believing something like this would classify this claim as a mental disorder.
IDK ...
Absurd reply give the context of what was said.Then know first and talk later.
If the death of 250,000 people within a few hours is a random and unimportant event for you, then, OK, you can claim so in your Bio.
That mass destruction is actively presented as a "test" and a "training" of the faithful of a religion on the other side of the world. If that's not a mental disorder symptom, nothing is.
You can no more disprove the existence of a G_d any more than they can prove one does.
That is a partial definition and as such is incomplete.That's just nonsensical drivel. Philosophy is about the search for existence,
And if you cease uttering the problem is solved.not accepting random utterings from mentally deranged people as equally true as any other claim.
:dohLogic does not require to disprove anything. People that make claims have to prove them otherwise they are in the realm of fantasy, or otherwise known as religion.
Nobody has to disprove that volcano gods don't exist. It's up to the volcano gods believing people to prove that what they claim is true.
These are high school level arguments. If people older than highschool age can't deal with them then they have to acknowledge their intellectual inferiority.
...you can no more disprove the existence of a G_d any more than they can prove one does.
You are totally off base.So, since *you* cannot disprove that a volcano god exists then a volcano god *may* exist.
That's what I called earlier a mental disorder.
Of one's self, I would argue.A lot of religious arguments center around a similar claim that the random and senseless destruction of people is justified because those people are just props and objects for the "testing" and "training" of other people.
Would you mind confining your replies to what I've actualy argued instead of going off on randome things as you just did?That kind of a mental state, is safe to say, must be a mental disorder.
Wtf? Are you?
This is the philosophical arena.
You can't even prove a G_d exists to make such contorted arguments.
That is why the discussion ends with the fact that you are only spouting a belief which is for you to take or leave. Not me.
:dohCan you prove that a higher power does not exist? Otherwise it is just your belief system vs. My belief system!
:doh
Clearly you do not understand my position.
It already is. Hence the :doh.Well, why don't you make it clear then?
It already is. Hence the :doh.
If you would spend less time spouting and more time reading you would have seen it.So sorry, between exclamations about human definitions, absurd, idk and spouting, I guess that I missed it!
If you would spend less time spouting and more time reading you would have seen it.
So since I can see you choose tnot to read what is posted, let me help you.
Your lame question in post #41 ...
"Can you prove that a higher power does not exist? Otherwise it is just your belief system vs. My belief system!"
Came after the following was stated in post #39.
You can no more disprove the existence of a G_d any more than they can prove one does.
So what exactly about that did you not understand?
:dohI am not into riddles! What I don't understand Is whether you believe in the existence of a higher power or not. I think that we all understand that proof either way is a bit hard to come by.
:doh
1. That clearly isn't a riddle.
2. My personal belief is irrelevant to this discussion.
Originally Posted by Logicman
God is able and willing to prevent evil ...
That statement is provably false. Therefore the rest of your argument is false too, by definition.
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