Black History Month./?

[NWRatCon]

Or, more accurately, Black History Month. Such is the country we live in.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Or, more accurately, Black History Month. Such is the country we live in.

What, exactly, are you seeking to convey ?

 

[NWRatCon]

Last year, I started a thread to discuss this Month on the principle that, in reality, American history is Black History. There is no aspect of American history that does not intersect with the history of blacks in America. This year, however, a full third of the population lives in a State that has limited the accurate teaching of American history by segregating out the black experience.

In April, my siblings and I are embarking on another expedition following the migration of one of my family branches - this one, a family that migrated from Virginia to Texas, with the aim of establishing businesses and plantations to promote the institution of slavery. Not merely participating, actually pushing slavery. It would be impossible to get an accurate family history without acknowledging that reality. The same is true for my country.

 

[NWRatCon]

Here's a challenge: identify a significant event or period in American history that was not influenced by, or relevant to, black history in America.

 

[MaryP]

Here's a challenge: identify a significant event or period in American history that was not influenced by, or relevant to, black history in America.

They're Americans. Period.

Woven into the American Coat of Many Colors.

 

[MaryP]

full third of the population lives in a State that has limited the accurate teaching of American history by segregating out the black experience.

What state is that?

 

[NWRatCon]

What state is that?

These Are the States That Passed Laws Restricting the Teaching of Racial History (The 74) "Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Iowa, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah have enacted 11 of these bills, signed into law by their Republican governors. And another bill is awaiting signature from Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey."

CRT Map: Efforts to restrict teaching racism and bias have multiplied across the U.S. (chalkbeat)​

"So far, at least 36 states have adopted or introduced, laws or policies, that restrict teaching about race and racism. With 2022 state legislative sessions underway, new legislation is in the pipeline."

 

[MaryP]

These Are the States That Passed Laws Restricting the Teaching of Racial History (The 74) "Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Iowa, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah have enacted 11 of these bills, signed into law by their Republican governors. And another bill is awaiting signature from Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey."

CRT Map: Efforts to restrict teaching racism and bias have multiplied across the U.S. (chalkbeat)​

"So far, at least 36 states have adopted or introduced, laws or policies, that restrict teaching about race and racism. With 2022 state legislative sessions underway, new legislation is in the pipeline."

So, Texas, with almost 4,000 blacks.

 

[NWRatCon]

So, Texas, with almost 4,000 blacks.

I think you meant 4 million. Yes. "Black Americans are the largest racial minority in the state, with blacks of Hispanic and non-Hispanic origin making up 12.3% of the population." They, however, don't count in Texas. (Interestingly, black representation in the State legislature is only slightly less than % of population (10% rather than 12%), unlike Hispanics who make up 40% of the population, but only 25% of the legislature.)

 

[MaryP]

I think you meant 4 million

LOL Yes. Time for bed.

 

[Rickeroo]

These Are the States That Passed Laws Restricting the Teaching of Racial History (The 74) "Alabama, Arizona, Idaho, Iowa, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah have enacted 11 of these bills, signed into law by their Republican governors. And another bill is awaiting signature from Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey."

CRT Map: Efforts to restrict teaching racism and bias have multiplied across the U.S. (chalkbeat)​

"So far, at least 36 states have adopted or introduced, laws or policies, that restrict teaching about race and racism. With 2022 state legislative sessions underway, new legislation is in the pipeline."

I'll use this to start a new project - assessing the content of the anti CRT-bills.

 

[Monica33]

Here's a challenge: identify a significant event or period in American history that was not influenced by, or relevant to, black history in America.

And you name us a significant event etc that was not key to white people .

By all means try to better understand the past but do not let it overshadow your attempts to graft a better future . Particularly when the Chinese become the new plantation masters !!

 

[NWRatCon]

As many probably know, I'm a proponent of the 1619 project, although, to be accurate, the date is off by at least nearly a century. 1619 only marks the beginning of the slave trade in the English colonies in America.

That's because we forget that Spanish colonies predated the English occupation by nearly a century (if you ignore the failed "lost colony" of Roanoke). The oldest successful European occupation in the current United States is St. Augustine, Florida, established in 1565, although the Spanish brought slaves to America at least as early as 1526 (not counting Christopher Columbus'). America's History of Slavery Began Long Before Jamestown (History); The First Africans in Virginia Landed in 1619. It Was a Turning Point for Slavery in American History—But Not the Beginning (TIME).

Early European occupiers also didn't make much distinction between African and native slaves. Indeed, one our most famous "black" patriots, Crispus Attucks, was more native than African, although still, was a slave.

It's also relevant that the slaves brought and bought in 1619 were not originally English cargo, but stolen fair and square from a Portuguese slave ship. They weren't even sold, technically, but traded for provisions (ironically, to John Rolfe, famous for marrying Pocahontas). Still, an inauspicious event. First enslaved Africans arrive in Jamestown, setting the stage for slavery in North America (History).

 

[jpevans]

Last year, I started a thread to discuss this Month on the principle that, in reality, American history is Black History. There is no aspect of American history that does not intersect with the history of blacks in America. This year, however, a full third of the population lives in a State that has limited the accurate teaching of American history by segregating out the black experience.

In April, my siblings and I are embarking on another expedition following the migration of one of my family branches - this one, a family that migrated from Virginia to Texas, with the aim of establishing businesses and plantations to promote the institution of slavery. Not merely participating, actually pushing slavery. It would be impossible to get an accurate family history without acknowledging that reality. The same is true for my country.

True that American History stands on the shoulders oh Blacks or more accurately the necks of Black folk. While mention of true Black accomplishments is nonexistent for the most. part. This has changed somewhat with the establishment of Black History Month. While Black History is the unspoken chord of American History.

 

[Grand Mal]

Here's a challenge: identify a significant event or period in American history that was not influenced by, or relevant to, black history in America.

Purchase of Alaska?
Not being confrontational, just that that was an important moment in American history from a Canadian perspective.

 

[NWRatCon]

Purchase of Alaska?
Not being confrontational, just that that was an important moment in American history from a Canadian perspective.

Interestingly, yes. Black whalers were instrumental in the whaling trade prior to the Alaska purchase. "Black whalers were among the first non-Indigenous North Americans to view Alaska’s shores and ply its waters in the mid-to-late 19th century." BLACK LIVES IN ALASKA: JOURNEY, JUSTICE, JOY (Anchorage museum)

The presence of black whalers is surprising to many (notwithstanding Moby Dick), but is both logical and directly related to slavery. Escaped slaves found refuge aboard such ships, as crews were made of whatever laborers/sailors could be secured, they were used to hard labor, and they could actually earn legitimate wages in the trade, largely away from locales where slavery was practiced. (There were often black pirates as well, as slave ships were taken and the "cargo" were given freedom of they became crew.)

Later, during the Klondike gold rush, blacks participated as prospectors, suppliers, and, most significantly, as security in the form of federal troops - Buffalo soldiers. This role would be repeated in WWII, as black troops were used to build the roads that connected the Aleutians and traversed Alaska.

So, yeah. Surprisingly. Yeah.

 

[jpevans]

Im the closed BHM thread, Jaypatriot said, "

You ID'd a Righty who responded to this thread by stating "All Lives Matter" as if it is some sort of anti-Black crime to write that.

All Lives do matter equally, it's just some branches of the human family seem to be more equal than others.

 

[jpevans]

Also from the canceled thread:
jaypatriot said:
You're not naive. There will always be fascistic leaders in the world.
You can learn about anything you want. It's your choice.
And you don't need to shove it toward anyone else who isn't interested in black history. It's their choice too, right.?
Just like you who thinks it's important.

There isn't that much content that one couldn't have an enjoyable evening of TeeVee without getting Black History overdose. & y'all prob'ly weren't watching the History channel with any regularity anyways.

 

[Craig234]

Here's a challenge: identify a significant event or period in American history that was not influenced by, or relevant to, black history in America.

The American Polka Festival.

 

[jpevans]

Gozaburo said:
What use is this claim if contemporary Democrats are obviously extremely progressive and have entire political platforms that revolve around restitution for African Americans and minority reparations?

Black Americans were dumped into freedom with no severance pay for the years of unpaid Labor, with the clothes on their backs & maybe some tools. Many fell back into virtual slavery in the share cropping situation, which may put a dollar in their pocket after the furnish was repaid. Furnish being rent for the roof over their heads, food they ate, seeds, tools & a reasonable profit for the white landowner. Of course with education being denied to negrows, the landowner kept the books. The were never compensated for their service in building this country, while Japanese who were interred in concentration camps were given reparations.

 

[Peacenik]

Or, more accurately, Black History Month. Such is the country we live in.

Much of the cult wishes to pretend there are no blacks in America. They certainly do not wish to celebrate black history. Black history reminds them they might be descendant from slave owners.

They don't want to admit that the early US economy was tremendously buoyed by slavery.

Anyone who does not wish to recognize how integral slavery was to the founding of America is operating on 3/5 of a brain.

 

[NWRatCon]

The American Polka Festival.

I said "significant". besides, consider this

Tell me that isn't some serious black polka.