- Joined
- Dec 14, 2005
- Messages
- 1,704
- Reaction score
- 10
- Location
- New Hampshire
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Very Conservative
It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
You seem confused, liberals are not the left and the left is not the allies of Islamic extremism.It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind.
...if Bin Laden were to meet with me and or with millions of other moral Christians--that we would probably get along fine since he would see me/us as possessing a high level of ethical/moral standards, with a deep commitment to honoring our God through religion.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy.
Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
I see PMSKid is at it again.
Bin Ladens allies? That would be the Bush family. They are in fact best friends with the Bin Ladens thats why the first plane that was let up in our air space after 911 was carrying the Bin Ladens out of the U.S.A. Funny they were having a cookout on Georges ranch on 911.
GEEZ! This is my first post but I guess I know more about Bin Ladens allies then you.
***Did you even read the original post? I think not. I suggest you go back to square one and do some reading. Being a rookie here is no excuse for being ignorant.
I wonder why 17 of the 19 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and Bush decided not to go into S Arabia?
***Gee, I wonder why 19 of the 19 hijackers were already in our country, learning how to fly jets, during the 1990's when Clinton was president? Could it be that Clinton's refusal to take out bin Laden several times when he had the chance, and the fact that Clinton was obsessed with Monica--be reason enough to agree he was covering his a$$ at the expense of America's safety and welfare?
From the reading I see here so far, debating some of you big Con Bush a$$kissers will be as easy as taking candy from a baby.:rofl
It does not take a degree in military tactics to discover what the insurgents already know: no resistance made up of a few thousand guerillas can win a war against the Iraqi majority backed up by the resources, training, and might of the U.S. military.
There is one way, however, for the Islamic radicals to win. They can win the war in the American mind. This is where the left fits into bin laden’s tactical scheme. Bin Laden recognizes that Al Qaeda by itself cannot destroy America’s will to resist. It is impossible for bin Laden to persuade the American people to get out of Iraq. He relies on other American to undertake this psychological mission. To bin laden’s unbelievable good fortune, there is a group in the United States dedicated to precisely this task. The left is Al Qaeda’s secret weapon in the campaign for American public opinion. As bin Laden knows, the left has already succeeded once, in Vietnam. Here again, in Iraq, the left is laboring for a similar outcome, a Saigon-style evacuation by the U.S. military.
Remember that Vietnam was a defeat for the American armed forces, but it was a victory for the political left. It was a victory in the sense that the left demanded that America accept humiliation and withdraw, and America accepted humiliation and withdrew. The left sought the ’liberation’ of Vietnam, and Vietnam was ’liberated.’ This outcome turned out to be very bad for the people of Indochina, who suffered unimaginable horrors following the U.S. pullout. First, the antiwar cause unified the left. As we discover from histories of the period, opposition to Vietnam brought together the foreign policy left and the cultural left, so that devotees of Ho Chi Minh and devotees of hallucinogenic drugs all marched together against the war. Second, the outcome in Vietnam decimated the political influence of the right. Not only did America’s defeat corrode the morale of the American military, but it also undermined patriotism and traditional values in America. The Nixon presidency was further crippled, and a new generation of liberal Democrats was elected to Congress in 1974. Finally, the left’s triumph in Vietnam paid handsome social dividends. It greatly bolstered the counterculture, giving added impetus to women’s liberation, gay rights, and the sexual revolution. So from the left’s point of view, Vietnam was not only a foreign policy success but also a cultural success. Therefore, for this group, the prospect of “another Vietnam” is an outcome that is eagerly anticipated.
Since the left is determined for its own reasons to ensure that America loses the war on terror, it becomes a natural ally for bin Laden. Together they form what may be termed the liberal-Islamic alliance against American foreign policy. Like the left, the Islamic radicals realize they are teaming up with “infidels” and they have no qualms about doing so. In Iraq, for example, Al Qaeda has shown no hesitation in making common cause with Saddam Hussein’s Baathist infidels. Bin Laden calls it a “convergence of interests.” Both are fighting against the Americans, and so they find themselves on the same side. By the same token, bin Laden and his followers believe they can work together with America’s left. Both are fighting against Bush’s war on terror, and so there is another “convergence of interests.”
_____***Think again sport. Try putting up something that makes sense first.
95% of the Earth's population is made of dangerous terrorists!
______At first I thought, not another Stinger.
Then I thought, the dichotomy of the two is going to be beautiful!
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?