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I have just stopped reading and watching biased news and have stuck with NPR...and the evil PBS in a scape, but i don't like their style of reporting, so i tend to shy away from themKansasMeg said:Ugh. Hannity is the biggest cry-baby I've heard on conservative radio. We (conservatives) never get our side reported in the mainstream media, those liberals have taken over, blah blah blah. Come on, guy! You have your conservative pres, congress, etc. Why on earth do you think you've been short-handed?
And then there's Alan Colmes. He's got to be the weakest, squirliest liberal on the radio. But no shock there, he is paid by FOX News. What conservative media outlet would want a real lib on their airwaves?
But Bill O'Reilly...does anyone support him? I have yet to find one conservative who doesn't see him as arrogant and annoying.
I personally think Al Franken (Air America Radio) has a great show. Not all this yelling or whinning you get from the conservative talk-shows. Plus he takes truth-telling very seriously.
But if you want *news* from actual reporters try NPR.
Get used to the Fox bashing here, Aquapub. The left will try to discredit what you say if you even admit to watching Fox. If you don't watch the media they approve of as legitimate, you are labeled as "uninformed".Why can't liberals ever grasp the difference between Opinion journalists and Objective journalists?
I am having a great deal of enjoyment from the lefts outrage over the Fox News Channel. You become so incensed over the “Fair and Balanced” motto. If they don’t spout the News you agree with it isn’t fair. If they don’t give equal time to some left winger minute by minute, they are not balanced. Cry me a river. :2bigcry:Liberals DO know the difference between opinion and objective journalists. The reporters/anchor persons on FOX News portray themselves as objective journalists, when in fact they are not. Not saying it is wrong for them to be "opinion journalists" or pundits, that's perfectly fine. Heck, the liberals have Air America. It's just that Fox says "we report, you decide" and describe themselves as "fair and balanced" which clearly they are not. That's misguiding the viewer.
That is your opinion, not fact. They have Democrat and Republican reporters, journalists, and political pundits.KansasMeg had already explained:
The reporters/anchor persons on FOX News portray themselves as objective journalists, when in fact they are not. [I am] not saying it is wrong for them to be "opinion journalists" or pundits, that's perfectly fine. Heck, the liberals have Air America.
You are but one speck in the left wing political spectrum. I didn't speak to you specifically.Ya, I sounded pretty darn outraged there, didn't I.
Do you keep track of the minutes? How do you know they don’t give equal time? Does Al Franken tell you? Lol Of course it bothers you, or you wouldn’t mention it.Squawker says:
If they don’t spout the News you agree with it isn’t fair. If they don’t give equal time to some left winger minute by minute, they are not balanced.
True, if FOX gives more time to Republicans than Democrats it IS unblananced. But that doesn't bother me. Give all the time you want to Republicans. Heck, give them 100% of the broadcast time. I woundn't expect Air America to give Republicans 50% of the air time, so why should I expect anything more from Fox? Like I had said...
There is a clear agenda to present both sides of the issues. You would have to have a chart of how much time they give to both sides to say they are not balanced. Do you have any links to that information, or are you just pulling stats out of thin air?There is a clear Republican/Conservative agenda over there at Fox News, no doubt about it. And like I said before, that's fine. But they need to be forthright about their intentions.
Of course I am. You are just another leftie spouting off about Fox.Are you getting it yet, Squawker?
Fox doesn't misrepresent themselves, the left wing political groups do that. They don't want you to believe anything you might hear on Fox that exposes their lies.The only problem I have with Fox News is that they misrepresent themselves. They portray themselves as "fair and balanced" when they truely are not. And this misrepresentation leads some viewers to believe they are watching unbiased news. I am NOT upset with the greater coverage by Republicans rather than Democrats. I am NOT upset that they spout the news I don't agree with.
I got the message the first time, and I didn't learn anything new the second time.Now that you've got the message clear, got a better response?
Really quickly, debate is not saying something purposefully to annoy the other side, as you have been doing Squak. That doesn't make for fruitful conversation, debate, anything.Squawker said:I got the message the first time, and I didn't learn anything new the second time.
What would you call fair and balanced?
HUH?Really quickly, debate is not saying something purposefully to annoy the other side, as you have been doing Squak. That doesn't make for fruitful conversation, debate, anything.
I don't see NPR fair or balanced at all. It is funded by the taxpayers and I seldom hear the conservative voice, but it is interesting to see what you view as fair and balanced.Fair and Balanced would be exactly what an NPR show called "Left, Right and Center" is. It wouldn't have Republicans and Democrats, it would have liberals, moderates and conservatives. Just the temrs Democrat and Republican can be deceiving because you could have a conservative Democrat or liberal Republican-it doesn't make for always correct discussion.
I never said NPR was fair and balanced, I said the idea that you have a conservative, liberal, and moderate debate as being the only option i see as fair and balanced. read my posts before you blipping respond. I said that one exact show, not the station was the perfect example of fair and balanced. jeez.Squawker said:HUH?
I don't see NPR fair or balanced at all. It is funded by the taxpayers and I seldom hear the conservative voice, but it is interesting to see what you view as fair and balanced.
I read your blipping post, that is why I blipping responded. Whatever that means. You must then agree that Fox is balanced as they allow all sides to have a voice on the issues presented. They may be spread out during the week, but they all have a voice.I said the idea that you have a conservative, liberal, and moderate debate as being the only option i see as fair and balanced. read my posts before you blipping respond.
no, i don't. i don't think that they are that at all. what i think is fair and balanced is having a show where you get all three perspectives. This isn't balanced out over a week. This is balanced out over an hour. Fair and balanced is always being fair and balanced in all your stuff, not just over a weeks course. Nobody is fair and balanced in my opinion.Squawker said:I read your blipping post, that is why I blipping responded. Whatever that means. You must then agree that Fox is balanced as they allow all sides to have a voice on the issues presented. They may be spread out during the week, but they all have a voice.
That seems to be an unreasonable goal for a media outlet, but how would you know Fox doesn't do that if you are not watching every hour, and taking notes of who is interviewed. The people who are questioned during the shows I have seen are usually just labeled as Rebublican or Democrat. They could be conservatives, moderates, or liberals, but that isn't pointed out. There is some programming that is just news, without commentary.no, i don't. i don't think that they are that at all. what i think is fair and balanced is having a show where you get all three perspectives. This isn't balanced out over a week. This is balanced out over an hour. Fair and balanced is always being fair and balanced in all your stuff, not just over a weeks course. Nobody is fair and balanced in my opinion.
Geraldo, Greta Van Sustern, Bob Beckel, John Podesta, and Lanny Davis are just a few of the Democrats that are featured on Fox. None of them are weak in the knees. The Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting study was done for the movie outfoxed. Not all programming is open to debate. The ones that are, have a balance of views.True. They do have liberals/democrats in some of their programming. But they are much fewer in number and are less likely to stand up for their points. Basically, weak liberals are brought on to represent that side. For instance, look at Alan Colmes. He's treated like Hannity's pet liberal...merely a token on that show.
lol I watch it because I only have to listen to liberals whine 50 percent of the time vs 100 percent of the time. I like the format and informality of Fox. They have fun and aren't into the gloom and doom of the liberal channels. Try it, you might learn something. :2razz:Squawker, most of the Fox viewers I know watch the channel because of the fact that it supports their conservative view. The fact that conservatives consistently tune in to and defend the Fox News network should tell you something about its "conservativeness". It's yours, own it, embrace it.
How would you suggest I prove that to your satisfaction? Both sides spin equally and both sides have a voice on Fox. What more is required?"Fair and Balanced" would be a consistent equal amount of time spent on all political sides or stating the news of the day without spin.
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