whysoserious
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Are you really going to pretend like we haven't been over this? Talk about playing dumb...
If those two things are essentially the same, why wouldn't you feel the same way?
Let's get the other part of his Tweet in the open, shall we, before you decide it's nuclear winter?
I think that puts Maher in the same light as the NYTimes, the Washington Post, TIME Magazine and several other distinguished publications who in 1988 sided with Hustler in Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell. In that case they all had something to lose, which made them at least temporarily on the same side, regardless of how far away those publications wanted to keep themselves from Hustler. Same applies here - Maher was defending his livelihood. Apparently your image of liberals doesn't include them making money. I'm sure you won't believe it but there are even liberals who support intellectual property rights, Silicon Valley is lousy with them."Hate to defend #RushLimbaugh but he apologized, liberals looking bad not accepting," Maher tweeted. "Also hate intimidation by sponsor pullout."
he's also Pro-Choice. that's very Libertarian.
OK, going to try and make this simple for you: there is a significant difference between showing he is not a liberal, and showing he is. All you have to do to show he is not a liberal is show positions that are not liberal. To show he is a liberal, you have to show that his positions overal are liberal. See how that works?
The reason it came up is a poster made the claim that Maher speaks for liberals. That is why you should read the thread(first page even).
When you get around to showing he is a liberal, then you will have shredded a notion. You have yet to even remotely do this.
sure it is.
now let's move on.
Not really. try again.
It's intriguing you think I am having a conversation with you. My apologies for your error.
There are Pro-Choice Libertarians and Pro-Life Libertarians.
yes, there are. I am a pro-life libertarian as I believe ones life is ones ultimate right.
Unless they become pregnant, then you think it's ok for the government to force them to have the child.
Yeah, I didn't say it was a legal claim, but believe it or not, the legal standards aren't pulled out thin air. The same reasoning applies here. People who choose to become public figures have, or should have, a reasonable expectation that they will subjected to a lot of public comment -- good and bad. Private citizens ... not so much. That's why no one bats an eye when Limbaugh says the most horrible things imaginable about Obama, Pelosi, and other Democrats, almost every time he opens his mouth. Did anyone call his sponsors when he called Hillary the "Sexretary" of State? No. What about when he called NOW "whores to liberalism"? No. It comes with the territory if you're a public figure.
Likewise, satire and comedy is not held to normal standards bause they are ... literally ... kidding.
demanding that the government force someone to do something..or to NOT do something, is the antithesis of Libertarianism.
Sarah Fluke would have a hard time arguing now, legally or otherwise, that she did not make herself a public figure.
Then it is OK, according to you, to use horribly racist terms describing Barack Obama, especially if it's "satire."
There's no way around that. Though I'd love to see you try to find one.
I don't think it will be worth the effort.... again, but sure....
Support for UHC Liberal position. in his own words:
Bill Maher: New Rule: Not Everything in America Has to Make a Profit
Lets also mention in this link his excuse making for something less than capitalism....
NOT LIBERTARIAN
Next up, Gun Control oh and abortion, along with a little attack on the teaparty:
Congress is getting ready for a vote for the 'No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion' Act. That's right, in 'teabagger' America, if you're going to take an innocent life, it had better be by a gun." -Bill Maher
So taxpayer funded abortions: NOT LIBERTARIAN
"One other thing I do not like about Ronald Reagan. He got shot and did not come out for gun control. I thought he missed a really good opportunity." -Bill Maher
NOT LIBERTARIAN
Shall I go on, or can it be your turn now? I have global warming, among other things in the magazine... click click.....impdaddy:
Please quote his stances that support his libertarian claim.
we all know how this ends.
Maher eschews political labels, referring to himself as "practical".[35] In the past, he has described himself as a libertarian and has also referred to himself "as a progressive, as a sane person".[36][37]
Maher favors a partial privatization of Social Security
Conservative
, ending corporate welfare and federal funding of non-profits,
Liberal
and legalization of gambling, prostitution, and marijuana.
Libertarian
Maher is a member of NORML's Advisory Board, an organization which supports regulated legalization of marijuana.
Liberal
He describes himself as an environmentalist, and he has spoken in favor of the Kyoto treaty on global warming on his show Real Time. He often criticizes industry figures involved in environmental pollution.[38]
Maher is a board member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
Liberal
Before the 2004 U.S. presidential election, Maher became candid in his stated opposition to the re-election of George W. Bush and in his support for John Kerry.[39]
Liberal
Known for protesting against the demonization of the word "liberal", during the campaign Maher criticized Kerry for being ashamed of the word. On his show, the comedian has noted the paradox of people claiming they distrusted "elite" politicians while at the same time wanting elite doctors to treat them and elite lawyers to represent them in court.[40] Maher supports the death penalty. Since the 9/11 attacks, he has endorsed the use of racial profiling at airports.[41]
Liberal
He was originally against the Iraq War, and has summarized his opinion by saying that the United States and the world have had to pay too high a price for the war. He is skeptical of Iraq surviving without civil war.[42]
Liberal
In the 2008 U.S. presidential election, Maher announced his support for Barack Obama.[43] Although Maher welcomed Obama's electoral victory, he has subjected him to criticism once in office for not acting boldly on health care reform and other progressive issues.[44]
Liberal
On February 23, 2012, after his 'Crazy Stupid Politics' special streamed on Yahoo! Screen, Maher announced that he was contributing $1 million to Priorities USA, the Obama SuperPAC.
Liberal
You seem very pushy about the way someone should feel about things. What gives you the right to say one person should be outraged by this and should be outraged by that?
How many times has this question been answered? We've already shown it happening with little to no repercussions. What the **** do you want?
Do you even know?
I don't think it will be worth the effort.... again, but sure....
Support for UHC Liberal position. in his own words:
Bill Maher: New Rule: Not Everything in America Has to Make a Profit
Lets also mention in this link his excuse making for something less than capitalism....
NOT LIBERTARIAN
Next up, Gun Control oh and abortion, along with a little attack on the teaparty:
Congress is getting ready for a vote for the 'No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion' Act. That's right, in 'teabagger' America, if you're going to take an innocent life, it had better be by a gun." -Bill Maher
So taxpayer funded abortions: NOT LIBERTARIAN
"One other thing I do not like about Ronald Reagan. He got shot and did not come out for gun control. I thought he missed a really good opportunity." -Bill Maher
NOT LIBERTARIAN
Shall I go on, or can it be your turn now? I have global warming, among other things in the magazine... click click.....impdaddy:
Please quote his stances that support his libertarian claim.
we all know how this ends.
Josie already gave the obvious answer.
But based on your own standard stated here, why are you so animated about Rush Limbaugh? Perhaps he feels he should be outraged about what Fluke said. Who are you to tell him he shouldn't be? Your hypocrisy never ends.
Josie already gave the obvious answer.
But based on your own standard stated here, why are you so animated about Rush Limbaugh? Perhaps he feels he should be outraged about what Fluke said. Who are you to tell him he shouldn't be? Your hypocrisy never ends.
Unless they become pregnant, then you think it's ok for the government to force them to have the child.
Bill Maher supports partial privitization of Social Security-generally libertarian position, not liberal
Supports ending federal funding for non profits-generally libertarian position, not liberal
Supports legalization of prostitution, gambling and drugs-generally libertarian positions, somewhat liberal.
He self identifies as a libertarian or progressive.
demanding that the government force someone to do something..or to NOT do something, is the antithesis of Libertarianism.
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