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Christian White Men are the most persecuted group in all of human history. Every Trump supporter knows this.
You're basing your argument on just one case??? Good gawd! :doh
Ok, the only example I can think of offhand was the Duke lacrosse team thing, which was pretty shameful, but they weren't found guilty of anything.
No doubt there are others, but I don't see a false accusation crisis in schools. My own incomplete experience suggests schools tend to circle the wagons and stonewall on the accused's behalf, most particularly of abusive teachers.
Examples must be plentiful, if our best option is to make it easier for school admins to ignore the accusations.
Ok, the only example I can think of offhand was the Duke lacrosse team thing, which was pretty shameful, but they weren't found guilty of anything.
No doubt there are others, but I don't see a false accusation crisis in schools. My own incomplete experience suggests schools tend to circle the wagons and stonewall on the accused's behalf, most particularly of abusive teachers.
Examples must be plentiful, if our best option is to make it easier for school admins to ignore the accusations.
By what ever means are required, and to these assholes willingness to use violence and/or lies registers in their pea brains as "Being Serious".
They lack the required morality.
They are children.
YUK
What a load of crap.
How about the accused even being able to defend themselves in the hearing?
Or is that too much to expect now, with 'presumed guilt' becoming the new leftist legal standard?
Yeah, yeah, just as long as the PC fascists get what they want. :roll:
I'm frankly fed up with it, and sick of it.
Bugger off and **** up someone else's country and legal system with your garbage ideology.
People accused of sexual misconduct can defend themselves during a hearing.
This seems really hard for you.
I think the leftist paradigm shifted into something of a monster, the further through the years we've gone.
What was the terminology.
-It's better to let 10 guilty men go free, than to imprison 1 innocent man?-
I think they've tried to reverse that course for a while now.
It’s not a matter of ignoring allegations. This is about ensuring that colleges and universities have robust due process if they are to usurp the role of police as an investigative authority in a criminal matter and mete out punitive measures against students. Some are better at this than others.
OP Link said:The new rules would reduce liability for universities, tighten the definition of sexual harassment, and allow schools to use a higher standard in evaluating claims of sexual harassment and assault.
It’s not a matter of ignoring allegations. This is about ensuring that colleges and universities have robust due process if they are to usurp the role of police as an investigative authority in a criminal matter and mete out punitive measures against students. Some are better at this than others.
That reads to me like the schools:
1. Have less on the line (reduced liability.)
2. Would have to consider fewer types of incidents via tighter definitions. (Sorry, that's awful but not technically sexual harassment.)
3. Have set a higher barrier to entry for accusers ("higher standards in evaluating accusations", AKA disregarding anything that they think won't come back to bite them.)
For a crime that goes famously under reported, these changes seem intent on squashing accusations with bureaucracy.
I'm no expert on the topic, but these particular changes seem to be more about making the school's job easier, rather than eliminating harassment or even stopping false accusations.
Why not just a sharp penalty when a false accusation is exposed?
What seems really hard is understanding that due process was replaced with SJW tribunals, where the accused had no Constitutional rights.
Wow MG. It's a LONG article, FULL of examples, of situations and really breaks it down. I was hoping, that the source being not a right wing site would elicit you to take a gander. I thought you were genuinely interested in the why I would (and others) feel these changes are good.
It's obvious now you are not. That article is very informative and does a great job of documenting the need for changes. I posted merely one snippet to give you a sliver of insight. And you went and embarrassed yourself. You aren't interested in open dialogue on this matter, and you really are not able or willing to look at the issue even when it's from a source far closer to your side of the aisle as it were.
So do us a favor, leave this thread. I have no desire to further banter with a witless snark whose not even willing to take a moment to listen.
No, it's not full of examples. AT ALL. I have no idea what the **** you are talking about. Did you link the right article? The one I read DID NOT have multiple examples of actual cases. It just lists changes from Obama to DeVos. :roll:
And keep the insults to yourself.
1wadwo “kojo” bonsu, 23, was on track to graduate in the spring of 2016 with a degree in chemical engineering from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Bonsu, who was born in Maryland, is the son of Ghanaian immigrants. He chose UMass because it gave him the opportunity to pursue his two passions, science and music. He told me he hoped to get a doctorate in polymer science or chemical engineering. At UMass he was a member of the National Society of Black Engineers. He also joined a fraternity (he was the only black member), played guitar in a campus jazz band, and tutored jazz guitarists at a local high school.
2Mark Hathaway, a California attorney who has dealt with several no-complainant complaints, says that the zeal with which these complaints are sometimes handled can be wounding psychologically to both the accused and his partner. Hathaway represented a young man who was in bed with his girlfriend in her dorm room. They were fooling around but not having intercourse. In the next bed was the girlfriend’s roommate and a male student. They thought that the girlfriend had had too much to drink to be able to consent to sexual activity. They mentioned their concern to a resident adviser, who was obligated to report it to the Title IX office, which then opened an investigation. “The girl says nothing happened; it was all consensual,” Hathaway told me. “But the school still goes forward.”
Because the school considered her a witness, the girlfriend was compelled to answer questions; had she refused to cooperate, she could have been disciplined. (If she had been the complainant, she would have had the right to decline.) Hathaway told me she “was in tears because she was required to explain to total strangers intimate sexual details.” The school concluded, despite her statements to the contrary, that she couldn’t have consented to the sexual encounter, and suspended her boyfriend for a semester. He was also required to attend eight sessions with a therapist on the topic of alcohol and sexual relationships.
As long as those accused and charged are not of their tribe Dems seem to have fallen inline behind Ellison, supporting him, ignoring the abuse he committed.I think the leftist paradigm shifted into something of a monster, the further through the years we've gone.
What was the terminology.
-It's better to let 10 guilty men go free, than to imprison 1 innocent man?-
I think they've tried to reverse that course for a while now.
Read this article, it really covers the bases on the matter. Seriously, READ IT.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/redi...rtable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/
People accused of sexual misconduct can defend themselves during a hearing.
This seems really hard for you.
Christian White Men are the most persecuted group in all of human history. Every Trump supporter knows this.
you aware of the Amherst case?
Yeah, they're pretty rampant.
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