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if so, then James Garfield is destined for Mt Rushmore.
So, if a crappy Prez pisses off so many people that someone shoots him; he is then instantly a good Prez?
Isn't it strange that the President who founded the Democratic Party was a genocidal murderer of indigenous people and the President who was responsible for freeing the slaves was a Republican?
He helped move the nation Westward. Simple as that. It was common belief then that the Indians were savages and were slowing our expansion.
Is that what you learned watching westerns as a young man or is that what your schools history books taught you. Well I hate to be the one to tell you this but it didn't happen the way your grade school teacher told you it did. And John Wayne was not a heroic Indian fighter he was a Hollywood actor. It was genocide, murder, extermination. It was ugly, it was passing out blanketts infected with small pox because you knew the natives didn't have the imune defenses to fight it. It was poisening the red man with alcohol, it was signing treaty after treaty that you did not intend to keep to steal the land from them. It was massecre of millions including the women and children, it was the Sand Creek Massacre where the Sothern Cheyennes were attacked and murdered in their peaceful winter camp. It was the massacre at Wounded Knee South Dakota. It was wrong and your history books are wrong. We should all learn the truth about this dark time in our history.
Lincoln was the ultimate RINO....
SgtRock said:So you have no problem with Jackson telling his troops to kill all the women and children to complete the extermination? Don't get me wrong, I love my country. I am just about as patriotic a person as you will meet. But the genocide of the indigenous peoples of America and slavery are two severely wrong points in our history and the sooner we face that the better. That includes recognising Andrew Jackson for the genocidal murderer that he was.
btw, you can call Godwinn all you want but in this case the reference to Hitler is based in fact.
For once I actually agree with SgtRock.
he started us down the road to a welfare socialist state where the balance of power between the federal government and the states was destroyed permanently. Most of the welfare income redistribution garbage that your party worships and derives power from could never have happened but for FDR's actions
President Lincoln by far. Our country would not be as free without him.
This was interesting I thought.
"The Murray-Blessing 1982 survey[21] asked historians whether they were liberal or conservative on domestic, social and economic issues."
There was actually very little difference in the top 3 picks as the best presidents by both the conservative and liberal historians.
The liberal historians picked as their top 3,
Lincoln
FDR
Washington
The conservative historians picked as their top 3
Lincoln
Washington
FDR
Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And if FDR was a president today he would be a socialist communist marxist fascist.....
I think the vast majority of conservatives dont see that FDR was actually a lot more left than Obama...
I would agree that he is the best in our lifetime, but hardly the best ever. There is much I like about Reagan, and little that I dislike. However, had Reagan had been tasked with a difficult period of time, rather than one of the easier ones, I do not believe his macro management style would have been suited well for such a critical period of time.Ronald Reagan
FDR
no doubt about it.
He turned back the worst domestic threat and the worst foreign threat of the last 100 plus years.
Yep...what a guy.
He had FAR more slaves then any other Founding Father and treated many of them poorly if they did not do as he wished.
And he stole from natives during his military days.
The guy was a dick head.
Why is Andrew Jackson on the short list. Isn't he the president responsible for the Indian Removal Project. The Cherokee Nations trail of tears in 1838/39. This founder of the Democratic Party was a ruthless genocidal killer. As a General
his first effort at Indian fighting was waging a war against the Creeks. President Jefferson had appointed him to appropriate Creek and Cherokee lands. In his brutal military campaigns against Indians, Andrew Jackson recommended that troops systematically kill Indian women and children after massacres in order to complete the extermination.
ı havent much knowledge about him ,but many claim he was a sane president ,who assasinates a bad president?
I disagree about both. Although I don't know if any POTUS could have made significant improvements in the economy of the 1930's due to the massive continental drought which lasted nearly the entire decade. In terms of foreign policy though, He made the situation far worse, ignoring the growing threat of the Nazis and the brewing asian conflict. At the start of WWII China and Japan were at war, the soviets were getting involved and Japan was looking for and doing anything in which if felt it could get an advantage. Japan had become a growing threat, and FDR was too eager to take their false good will which cost us dearly. With multiple theaters at war, we were completely unprepared with our armed forces being depleted and our readiness at such a pathetic state.
the least educated people are also more likely to vote dem.
Ronald Reagan
I would agree that he is the best in our lifetime, but hardly the best ever. There is much I like about Reagan, and little that I dislike. However, had Reagan had been tasked with a difficult period of time, rather than one of the easier ones, I do not believe his macro management style would have been suited well for such a critical period of time.
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