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Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie

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Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie & Freddie

Ever since the mortgage lenders went belly up, the left has denied that the revisions to the CRA made by the Clinton administration were responsible, including Barney Frank. That all changed in a CNBC interview.


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This is what liberals have denied for years, because it just has to be Bush's fault? :roll:
 
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All Hail Barney Frank

Master of the Universe, more powerfull then god himself

Able to overcome the powers of a republican president, a rebuplican congress, a republican senate, the most powerfull financial institutions in the US to force all of them to force banks to give people loans for overpriced houses


I challenge anyone here to tell me the punishment for any financial institution if they did not follow the CRA

Then I have to ask can anyone tell me if Countrywide, Ditech, GMAC, the groups that originated the subprime loans subject to the CRA
 
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All that has been hashed and re-hashed. The time for excuses is over, thanks to Barney Frank finally coming out and telling the truth. Speaking of the truth, why don't you do a little research and you will see that the modifications to the CRA are what started this whole mess.
 
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hey Grim, want to explain to me why it took 12 years for the changes to produce the effect?
 
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hey Grim, want to explain to me why it took 12 years for the changes to produce the effect?

One of the reasons is that for 12 years, people like Franklin Raines cooked the books at Fannie Mae, and reported the losses as profits for his own financial gain.

Now let me ask you, what do you think a bunch of unqualified home buyers being allowed to purchase homes, effected the housing bubble? Think it might have driven home prices through the roof?

Like I said, this is old news pal and the time for excuses is over. The CRA was a democratic policy that was not only a complete failure, but was responsible for plunging the country into the worse recession of my lifetime.
 
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Give the guy credit. Not many politicians are able to admit mistakes.

He's not getting any credit from me. He just can't deny it any longer.
I've watched him many times interrupt, scream, sputter, deny anytime Freddy or Fannie would come up in Congress. The other side would try to bring up dates when it was known they were in trouble. He'd interupt screaming that that was when HE knew they were in trouble and it was all someone elses fault they didn't stop it. Or that F&F was fine then. Barney, Chris Dodd and Maxine Waters are up to their eyeballs in corruption to do with fannie and freddy. I hope someday all the truth comes out.
Must admit I'm surprised that maybe finally something is going to be done. I had my doubts when the left refused to put F & F into the financial reform bill.
I"m sure Frank, Dodd, and Waters will get off smelling like roses but if F&F is dismantled that will be good for the country.
 
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It amuses me that 2 out of the 3 Senators you mention are in front of the ethics committee.
 
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The time for excuses have ended

I present the facts about the CRA, and asked important questions (that I know the answer to already, but you do not apparently)

The CRA had a very MINIMAL impact on creating the housing bubble because it is a very miminal act to begin with. It's only punishment is providing a compliance score that might be used to approve or dissapprove institutions subject to it from buying up other banks or expanding branchs. It does not stop the expansion it is just a score that might be used to approve or dissapprove them.

Country Wide one of the largest subprime mortgage originators was not subject to the CRA and had no governmental obligation to create subprime loans, the same with much of the subprime mortgage originators. I suggest you do a lot of research on the CRA and into how it actually worked rather then listen to idiotic pundits with an agenda to push so that you can learn actual facts regarding the issue. The CRA might be a flawed document, but in no way was it a primary cause of the housing crisis
 
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he is evil for attempting to provide homes for low-income people. he is even more evil for admitting that he tried too hard to provide homes for low-income people.

the evil son of a bitch. we should just kill him.

geo.
 
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Of course it's a bad idea to push mortgages on the poor for housing they can't afford.

Instead, the government should help the poor ensure housing they can afford.
 
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It amuses me that 2 out of the 3 Senators you mention are in front of the ethics committee.

I know Waters is up for money she got from stimulus that happened to go to a bank her husband has stock in and used to be on the board. (Conflict of interest)Nothing about Fannie or Freddy that I know of.
Who else? Chris Dodd? I hope so and I hope it has to do with his dealings with Countrywide and F&F. But I hadn't heard about it.
 
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I've confused Dodd with Rangel.
 
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Of course it's a bad idea to push mortgages on the poor for housing they can't afford.

Instead, the government should help the poor ensure housing they can afford.

and once upon a time.... they did.

the Federal National Mortgage Association was an independent, publically financed, non-profit created during the Roosevelt admin as part of his New Deal when banks, crippled during the depression could not make home loans. it operated in the black and made profits for outside for profit lenders by providing guarantees they could not provide themselves.

it all went to hell when it was privatized as a for profit business by (get ready conservative partisans) LBJ in order to redirect the monies that had gone to provide homes to kill asians in black pajamas instead. Trouble is, it remained exempt from certain little niggling things that other financial institutions were subject to... like direct competition, taxation and regulation.

it was a de facto monopoly. so, the wise folk in DC decide that it needed a bit of competition and created the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation... Freddie Mac. Of course, it was not real competition because both FMs were free of government oversight.

what rep Frank should do, rather than support their dissolution, is to return them to their status as non-profits with government oversight. but... that would be socialism, huh?

geo.
 
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Of course it's a bad idea to push mortgages on the poor for housing they can't afford.

Instead, the government should help the poor ensure housing they can afford.
Thanks
They were getting rich. They didn't care about helping the poor. Banks were forced to give subprime loans. Those poor people are worse off now than they were before the government stepped in "help".
No matter how much we would like it to be, not everyone is going to be able to afford a home. We need to get back to the days when people worked and saved for a down payment and had skin the game. When you put up your own money you're going to choose a house that you know you can make payments on. Instead , now we have a bunch of houses underwater. I can't blame the people who are just walking away.
If we need to work on affordable housing, lets do it. But the government trying to put evryone in their own homes has been a complete disaster for everyone.
 
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I've confused Dodd with Rangel.

Rangles up for tax invasion and things like that.
All I know is, that in my opinion at least 3 people should be investigated for Frannie and Freddy, but doubt it will happen.
That would be Waters, Frank and Dodd.
 
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Banks were not forced to give out subprime loans that were destined to fail. The banks did not care if they failed as they securitized them and sold them not caring if they failed or not. Other institutions like Countrywide were not subject to government regulation and yet was one of the largest subprime mortgage originators in the US
 
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Maybe this article from the New York Times "Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending" from September, 1999 will help you understand what happened. Here are a few key excerpts:


Then of course there were the warnings issued:


Then there was this:


Are you getting the picture yet? The government, specifically the Clinton Administration, pushed Fannie and Freddie to purchase risky home loans from banks, which allowed banks to accept these loans because they wouldn't be at risk should they default. This rendered the revisions to the CRA irrelevant, but it's those revisions that gave the mandate to the Clinton Administration that led to forcing Fannie and Freddie to take on the bad loans that led us to where we are today.

I'll say it again... The time for excuses is over.
 
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Damn, that Barney Frank is one all powerful SOB, isn't he?

Nice to hear that Credit Default Swaps are blameless in this, and that one guy, Barney Frank, single-handedly almost took down the economy of the entire world!!!

OH...

... and dija hear...

He's GAY!

Whooooda thunk it?



*****Sarcasm Off*******
 
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One of the reasons is that for 12 years, people like Franklin Raines cooked the books at Fannie Mae, and reported the losses as profits for his own financial gain.

LOL. You are really saying that several big auditor firms failed to catch that kind of massive fraud? Maybe we should move this thread to the conspiracy thread forum. KPMG, PwC and Deloitte all failed in a dozen years to catch that? What's next? Bill Gates planned JFK's assassination?

Come back when you have something more then conspiracy theories.
 
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Great link. Thanks....


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Conspiracy theory huh?

I assume you can read, so read the following from the Washington Post:


Still clinging to the "conspiracy theory" dodge? Well, see if this one helps you:


If that's not enough for you, here's a 3 in 1 bonus for you located HERE. It has 2 stories from the Washington Post, and one from the Associated Press.

Now what were you saying about conspiracy theories again?

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a thread that mentions barney frank and fannies is enough to make me hurl given the images it creates
 
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a thread that mentions barney frank and fannies is enough to make me hurl given the images it creates

yeah, i know what you mean.

bigots make me feel the same way.

geo.
 
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