This looks like another case of let’s keep counting til we get the results we want.Mar 4, 9:37 AM (ET)
By RACHEL LA CORTE
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - Republicans have released 1,135 names of alleged felons who they say illegally cast ballots in the governor's race that Democrat Christine Gregoire won by 129 votes.
The list turned over to Democratic Party lawyers on Thursday contained the names and addresses of the alleged felons, along with 45 people who Republicans say died before the Nov. 2 election but who were listed as having voted.
"It's one more significant piece of evidence that this past election was not only deeply flawed but that we don't know who won," said Mary Lane, a spokeswoman for Republican opponent Dino Rossi, who is challenging the results in court. "Christine Gregoire is not the legitimately elected governor."
Democrats, who have intervened in the suit on the side of the state and argue the election should stand, said they doubt the accuracy of the list.
Republicans said they obtained a felon list from the State Patrol and compared it to a voter list from the secretary of state's office.
Rossi led after the first two vote tallies only to lose in a hand count of 2.9 million ballots cast. He and his supporters filed suit in Chelan County seeking to void the results, alleging widespread problems.
The Florida Supreme court went over the line by allowing the recount to continue after state law forbid it. The US Supreme ruled on what the Fl. Supreme court did. A court cannot make new laws, therefore, they had no right to extend the voting. Why you people think differently is beyond me. The law was very clear. Gore tried to steal the election and he lost, get over it already.If you can really stand the truth....the United States Supreme court stopped the counting of votes in FL, 2000...before the results were known!
Hoot said:If you can really stand the truth....the United States Supreme court stopped the counting of votes in FL, 2000...before the results were known!
Hoot said:The race was so close in FL, less then 1/2 of one percentage point, that FL state law, not Gore, demanded a recount....this was mandated by FL state law!
Never mind the fact that Gore won a majority of the popular vote, and that the ancient electoral process saved his ass. The people voted for Gore, and Bush won...so people threw eggs at his limo on inauguration day lol. And that's as much justice as Gore voters got.vauge said:Damn the fact that it was against Florida law to continue counting beyond the timeframe, right?
Before the results were known? LOL, that in itself is funny. How many times did they recount them (before and after the court) - how many times did the result come up the same?
Batman said:You are absolutely 100 percent RIGHT! And Bush won that mandated recount by the way. Then Gore handpicked 3 democratic counties to recount again. How does that taste? :shock:
Batman said:You are absolutely 100 percent RIGHT! And Bush won that mandated recount by the way. Then Gore handpicked 3 democratic counties to recount again. How does that taste? :shock:
Hoot said:Gore offered to have the whole state recounted, but Bush "I'm For the People, He's for Big Government," wanted no part of allowing this basic right of American citizens.
What kills me is the USSC had the nerve to transform the votes of 50 million Americans into nothing, and threw out all the FL undervotes, and then wrote that their ruling was intended to preserve "the fundamental right" to vote! ROTFL! Hypocrites!
Pacridge said:I thought Gore only wanted to recount 3 counties?
What do you mean the USSC threw out votes?
There is the rub, Hoot. It wasn't a valid and legal count after the Florida Supreme Court extended the time beyond what the Florida Constitution allowed. They over ruled a law on the books to accommodate the Gore campaign. They didn't count the late absentee ballots from the military either which they should have done. Why are we still fighting this fight?Bottom line...you don't steal an election by wanting all valid votes to count, but you can steal an election by stopping the valid and legal counting of votes.
I don't confess to have any idea what happened. I suspect there was BS being done by both sides. Really at this point- what’s the point of debating what did or did not happen?Hoot said:I'm not saying the USSC threw out votes, but in a sense they did.
As you recall, Gore had more votes than Bush did across the nation.
By throwing out the 'undervotes,' those votes not picked up by the machines, the USSC literally stole the election with the pretext of an inapplicable constitutional provision. I believe the Court committed the sin of being a known surrogate for the republican party instead of being an impartial judge of the law.
Bottom line...you don't steal an election by wanting all valid votes to count, but you can steal an election by stopping the valid and legal counting of votes.
Squawker said:There is the rub, Hoot. It wasn't a valid and legal count after the Florida Supreme Court extended the time beyond what the Florida Constitution allowed. They over ruled a law on the books to accommodate the Gore campaign. They didn't count the late absentee ballots from the military either which they should have done. Why are we still fighting this fight?
Hoot said:Ok...I'll stop on this, I know it's old news.
But allow me to say there is no FL state statute, or Federal deadline for the counting of votes.
Dec 12th is a FL deadline for giving the electors what is called "safe harbor." Safe harbor is merely a date that prevents Congress from contesting the results of the election. As the vote counting was stopped on Dec 9th, and was scheduled to be completed the very next day, this 'safe harbor' rule never would've come into effect.
What's more important....making sure the electors have safe harbor, or making sure all valid votes are counted?
The three branches of government are supposed to be equals.
There is no law on the books anywhere that allows the USSC to pick our president...which is exactly what they did.
The most dangerous and frightening thing to ever happen in the history of our nation.
One of Hillary's first proposals as senator was to do exactly that. Oh well.Pacridge said:I have a feeling if Bush would have won the pop. vote and lost the elec. vote we would have already seen a national movement to get rid of the elec. college.
Batman said:One of Hillary's first proposals as senator was to do exactly that. Oh well.
That's the final thought.
So much for the final word.Pacridge said:Do you have a source on that?
A Renewed Campaign
At predictable intervals — usually coinciding with a presidential election — advocates of a more centralized, socialist national government propose the abolition of the Electoral College, and the prolonged deadlock in the 2000 presidential campaign prompted unprecedented interest in the idea.
In her first public appearance as New York’s junior senator-elect, Hillary Rodham Clinton told a rally in Syracuse: "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people, and to me, that means it’s time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president." Displaying anew the vaunting arrogance that propelled her into a futile bid to re-cast our nation’s health system according to her whims, Mrs. Clinton announced that one of her first undertakings as a senator would be to support an amendment to provide for the "direct election" of the president.Source
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