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I really can't imagine why you think I don't understand the pro-choice position. Thanks, though, for the Godwin. Illuminating.
You all talk like you're brainwashed or something. Pro choices really don't talk or approach this issue as if they are all Nazis.
You're basically debating a boogie man version of pro choices.
Do you ever think that maybe most people support abortion rights simply because making abortion illegal would create many undersired legal, social, and medical issues?
Bingo.
It's a linguistic necessity as old as mass-murder itself. "Jews, ahem,blacks, excuse me,native americans, sorry,chinese, woops I mean infants aren't people, they are [insert dehumanizing term here]."
Later we all look back and wonder with horror how people could ever have accepted that kind of evil. The ability of the human mind to self-deceive when it is in its interest to do so is powerful.
What is a dehumanizing term?
I
really can't imagine why you think I don't understand the pro-choice position. Thanks, though, for the Godwin. Illuminating.
No, the reason I don't have an answer is the same reason that you don't: We don't have the facts. Oh, and at in at least one state's big city, there was a demonstrable systemic failure. There may be others.
Which is my point.
You don't know any more than I do whether there are other horror stories out there.
How
about "parasite" and "cancer"? I've seen both.
I said I have seen them, but that isn't language used heavily by everybody.
I think its kind of unfair to paint every pro choicer like that.
I assume its because you don't understand the pro choice position and refuse to do so, as indicated by your lack of an actual response to my point on changing the legal status of abortion.
I said I have seen them, but that isn't language used heavily by everybody.
I think its kind of unfair to paint every pro choicer like that.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence runs strongly in your post. Keep at her nota, maybe if you wish hard enough you'll find 100 similar abortion clinics. I'll put money on this matter though. You willing to wage a platinum donation over your possition?
Which is why we
need to work at rejecting self-deception, however convenient. There are fundamental values that are universal. One is that exerminating a subclass of human beings is wrong. Another is that "situational ethics" more often than not...aren't.
Unborn life is not subhuman. You guys need to stop using so many strawmen.
Oh.
Goody. Hey if only 6% of the over 1 million troops who have deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan started mass-murdering local nationals, would you think that was a problem, or not? Because as I recall a couple of squads worth of folks was deemed worth multiple massive above-the-folds NYTimes headlines, huge national "conversations", investigations.....
I have equal evidence as your claim that 94% don't do this kind of crap.
[quot]Reply to what? Your emotional outburst?
Spare me from your high horse. It bores me how see through you are.
Hey look, it happens. So what? Prosecute the people responsible - end of story.
No reason to start crying and bitching about the "infants" or getting panties in a bunch over the horribly mangled children being compared to slaves, chinese railroad workers and whatever other nonsensical comparison people are making to tie abortion to a fictional holocaust.
Unborn life is not subhuman. You guys need to stop using so many strawmen.
WHERE ARE THE STATISTICS? Why has nobody kept track of incidents like this? If they're "systematic" - there should at least be one pro-life watch dog out there with the evidence to back it up. However, there aren't. There aren't dozens of butcher shops lightly disguised as abortion clinics and in the last 10 years not a SINGLE group has thought to keep track of the dozens that should - theoretically - exist. Why? It seems after such a horrible incident - there would be AT LEAST - one pro-life abortion clinic watch dog ready to come up with facts. There aren't.
Of
course, I understand the pro-choice position; I once held it. Was alive and enthusiastically sexually active when Roe v Wade was decided.
:lamo
I
don't understand why you're quoting me. I'm not "you guys," and what I said was "subclass," not "subhuman."
I means the same to me
A typical Nazi rationalization. This holocaust in not fictional at all. Many Muslims and left wingers still deny the Jewish Holocaust, and I see the same thing happening here.
No, and your trying to call me out isn't going to work either. I have made plain my hope that there are no more states or cities that will discover similar abuses. You're ignoring this because it doesn't serve your purpose.
It is horrible what happened here. I believe if they are found guilty...nothing short of life in prison should be used. I'm more in favor of death if absolutely proved guilty.
However, I don't think this makes any case for abortions to be illegal. As a matter of fact, I think it does the opposite. Why? Well, if abortions become illegal they will go underground and more atrocious things like this will happen.
Do you ever think that maybe most people support abortion rights simply because making abortion illegal would create many undersired legal, social, and medical issues?
I said I have seen them, but that isn't language used heavily by everybody.
I think its kind of unfair to paint every pro choicer like that.
I called you out on the fact that this isn't happening in anywhere near the numbers you want it to. So.. put your money where your duck and dodging mouth is. Platinum donation?
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