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Attorneys for Blendon Twp. cop charged with murder want trial moved out of Franklin County

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This is the case where a police officer (Connor Grubb) shot and killed a pregnant suspect as she tried to drive away, when a Kroger employee indicated she had shoplifted from the store. The defense team is arguing for a change of venue.

This is an expected motion - defense attorneys will always argue this on a high profile case. I find the reasoning kind of interesting - that they've apparently had so many police shootings that jurors are getting them confused, and are 'tired' of police shootings. Given this case - with a woman shot over petty theft involving a few bottles of wine - sounds like the whole county may need to implement some use of force training.

Attorneys for a Blendon Township police officer charged with murder in the shooting death of 21-year-old Ta'Kiya Young want his trial moved out of Franklin County. Officer Connor Grubb faces four counts of murder, four counts of felonious assault and two counts of involuntary manslaughter in the Aug. 24, 2023, death of Young, who was six months pregnant when she died. Her unborn daughter also died as a result of the shooting. Grubb said he shot her as she drove her vehicle into him in the Kroger parking lot off Sunbury Road while he and another officer were attempting to get her out of her vehicle to question her about the theft of alcohol from the Kroger store that a store employee had reported.

Defense attorneys Mark Collins and Kaitlyn Stevens argued at a July 14 hearing before Franklin County Common Pleas Judge David Young to move the trial to a different venue. Collins and Stevens also represented former Columbus police officer Adam Coy, who was convicted in November of murder, felonious assault and reckless homicide in the December 2020 shooting of 47-year-old Andre Hill. The attorneys argued that several potential jurors in that trial confused Coy's case with several other high-profile police shootings while filling out their juror questionnaires. Some of them also said they were "tired" of the high volume of police shootings in Franklin County, expressing frustration at police.

Prosecutors insisted Grubb could receive a fair trial in Franklin County, noting that the court should proceed with the trial and decide later whether the jury pool is too tainted to hold the trial in the county where the shooting took place.


In a hearing Monday, the defense team argued the case has received too much publicity, and that so many police shootings and police-shooting trials have happened in Franklin County that a jury pool won't be able to keep them straight. They said they may seek a bench trial.

Prosecutors said even if the judge were to move the trial, it shouldn't be before they've questioned jurors first to verify the jury pool is tainted.

Attorney Elizabeth Well is representing Ta'Kiya Young's mother as a victim advocate. Well said if the trial is moved, it will make it hard for Nadine Young to attend. "The family is very interested in being here to exercise their right to be present and to move the venue would make that impossible," Well said.

Grubb's defense team said the judge could move the trial to a nearby county. The judge is expected to issue a written decision before the trial is scheduled to begin in November.
 
Not guilty.

“Young was suspected of stealing alcohol at a Kroger on Aug. 24, 2023, when Grubb and a fellow officer approached her car.
She lowered her window part-way and the other officer ordered her out. Instead, she drove forward toward Grubb, who fired a single bullet through her windshield into her chest.

Bodycam footage of the encounter showed an officer at the driver’s side window telling Young she was accused of shoplifting and ordering her out of the car. Young protested and both officers cursed at her and yelled at her to get out.

Young could be heard asking them, “Are you going to shoot me?”

Then she turned the steering wheel to the right, the car rolled slowly forward and Grubb fired his gun.”


When police tell you to get out of the car; it doesn’t mean use your vehicle as a weapon.
 
Watch the body cam footage. The officer in front of the car could easily have just stepped out of the way, but chose to try and block the car with his body. He was already out of danger when he fired his gun. That led to him executing the woman (and child) for the crime of disobeying a police officer when accused of minor shop lifting. The penalty the woman would have faced in court for that crime would have been very little, but the police decided to execute her for failing to do as she was told. What is the legislated penalty for that? Not execution is it!!

It is sickening how often police use their guns to kill people purely because those people annoyed them by not following orders. Then we get all the excuses about police safety etc etc. This was one of those classic execution scenarios and the officer that killed her should (imo) be done for murder. He had a very easy choice to let her drive away, but decided that her 'disobedience' of his instructions warranted her execution. I just can't understand that mentality, and I can't understand how anyone can watch the body cam footage and try to defend what happened.
 
I've been wrong about these kinds of cases before because it will ultimately come down to how these jurors interpret the actions of the deceased and the actions of the officer(s) and what is reasonable given the circumstances.

I think the officer's odds of being acquitted are probably north of 50%. They were responding to a shoplifting call. They presumably made it clear that they were law enforcement. They lawfully instructed the driver to get out of the car on multiple occasions. She refused. She then drove toward an armed officer who lawfully instructed her to get out of the car. The officer isn't required to ask her whether she intends to floor it and run him over or is merely tapping the gas pedal.

Now, do I think she had to be fatally shot over a suspected shoplifting incident? No, I don't. I think police departments all over the country have trained their officers to be unnecessarily confrontational, but I blame multi-billion dollar corporations like Kroger who encourage law enforcement activity and criminal prosecution over petty theft. If it's the average person who, say, got their bike stolen by their neighbor, the police would just tell them to fill out a report and send it in and that they'll investigate (right).
 
Not guilty.

“Young was suspected of stealing alcohol at a Kroger on Aug. 24, 2023, when Grubb and a fellow officer approached her car.
She lowered her window part-way and the other officer ordered her out. Instead, she drove forward toward Grubb, who fired a single bullet through her windshield into her chest.

Bodycam footage of the encounter showed an officer at the driver’s side window telling Young she was accused of shoplifting and ordering her out of the car. Young protested and both officers cursed at her and yelled at her to get out.

Young could be heard asking them, “Are you going to shoot me?”

Then she turned the steering wheel to the right, the car rolled slowly forward and Grubb fired his gun.”


When police tell you to get out of the car; it doesn’t mean use your vehicle as a weapon.
And officer can't jump to deadly force for petty theft. He violated his department's policy and the law
 
And officer can't jump to deadly force for petty theft. He violated his department's policy and the law
He can when the perp accelerates a car towards him. Which is what the bodycam footage proves happened.
 
It's real simple. When the police tell you to do something, you either do it or they get to kill you. Surely a jury will understand that.

Cop an attitude? They get to kill you. Show disrespect? They get to kill you.
That is so wrong.
 
I've been wrong about these kinds of cases before because it will ultimately come down to how these jurors interpret the actions of the deceased and the actions of the officer(s) and what is reasonable given the circumstances.

I think the officer's odds of being acquitted are probably north of 50%. They were responding to a shoplifting call. They presumably made it clear that they were law enforcement. They lawfully instructed the driver to get out of the car on multiple occasions. She refused. She then drove toward an armed officer who lawfully instructed her to get out of the car. The officer isn't required to ask her whether she intends to floor it and run him over or is merely tapping the gas pedal.

Now, do I think she had to be fatally shot over a suspected shoplifting incident? No, I don't. I think police departments all over the country have trained their officers to be unnecessarily confrontational, but I blame multi-billion dollar corporations like Kroger who encourage law enforcement activity and criminal prosecution over petty theft. If it's the average person who, say, got their bike stolen by their neighbor, the police would just tell them to fill out a report and send it in and that they'll investigate (right).
They were responding to keys locked in a car. Someone from the store started yelling that she was a shoplifter. They had no other evidence when they started shouting, hammering on her window, and drew a gun.
 
He stepped in front of the car and drew his gun. She got scared, tried to steer around him, and eased forward.
She was ordered out of the car and instead used her car as a weapon by accelerating it towards him.
 
She was ordered out of the car and instead used her car as a weapon by accelerating it towards him.
Already corrected this. Accelerated in that she was going just above zero. She likely panicked when the officers went into freak out mode.
 
They were responding to keys locked in a car. Someone from the store started yelling that she was a shoplifter. They had no other evidence when they started shouting, hammering on her window, and drew a gun.

If someone tells an officer she shoplifted, that's not enough evidence to arrest her, but they can ask her to step out of the car, and she would be wise to comply.

I'm not saying I agree with what the officers did. In fact I probably don't, but based on what I've seen in the videos, she should have just turned off the ignition and gotten out of the car. She can sue if she thinks she was profiled or if she thinks her civil liberties were violated.
 
He stepped in front of the car and drew his gun. She got scared, tried to steer around him, and eased forward.

Hard to tell. It looks like she got shot and then the car rolled.

I think it's going to be hard to convict the officer of murder, but not impossible. A civil settlement, OTOH, would seem likely.
 
If someone tells an officer she shoplifted, that's not enough evidence to arrest her, but they can ask her to step out of the car, and she would be wise to comply.

I'm not saying I agree with what the officers did. In fact I probably don't, but based on what I've seen in the videos, she should have just turned off the ignition and gotten out of the car. She can sue if she thinks she was profiled or if she thinks her civil liberties were violated.
Actually, she can't. She's dead. They had to kill her. How else was she gonna learn?
 
I'm betting the cop wishes he had made different decisions as well.

No doubt.

Now he has to endure the indignity of justifying his actions to to a bunch of non-cops. maybe even some black folks.

He's facing criminal conviction and a lengthy prison sentence.

I am not saying that the officers handled this the right way, but unfortunately, it's possible for LEOs to be poorly trained or to overreact and still avoid criminal conviction.
 
No doubt.



He's facing criminal conviction and a lengthy prison sentence.

I am not saying that the officers handled this the right way, but unfortunately, it's possible for LEOs to be poorly trained or to overreact and still avoid criminal conviction.
Remember the Rodney King cops trial?

They got a change of venue to a predominately white upscale suburb of LA. The jury was all white with only one asian included. The LA DA did not want the cops convicted, so he made sure the only black man in the courtroom was the prosecutor. They were acquitted, and much of LA burned from the subsequent riots. The officers were later charged with federal civil rights violations and were convicted.
 
Only if you believe that perps are entitled to use a vehicle as a weapon to flee the scene of a crime.
Nope.

Grubb, positioned in front of the vehicle (a failure of basic police safety training), had sufficient time to get out of the way but chose to use lethal force.
 
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