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Some pictures from the Mobile, AL Tea Party:
Debate Politics Forums - P/N's Album: Mobile, AL Tea Party
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I know, it is a bore when someone points out when you're being inanely hypocritical on an issue. Let me see your reasoning here it seems...
"Well, the Left was correct, and so its okay for us to protest, and its okay for us not to protest now, and its okay for us to insult your protest now, because the Left is correct and the Right is wrong".
Wow, amazing logic there. Yes, however could I not have just nodded and obviously agreed with you. Its obvious now, yep. Its completley just hypocritical republicans and angelic democrats, we need to just all open our eyes to the most wonderous and perfect views and solutions of the Great Barack Obama.
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I agree, but I talked to this lady and she wasn't a moron. She didn't realize that she had spelled it wrong on the sign and was embarrassed. She knew more of what is going on than I anticipated after having witnessed the sign. I also loved her t-shirt.:lol: I think protests right or left, attract the morons.....
Hi, I was just reading these posts and yours stood out for me.It's really not up to you to say when we should draw the line about taxes since you don't think taxes are ever too high!
And, no, we have not had socialism in this country "for decades". But that is where we are headed now ie. auto, banking, health care.
Bush was too fiscally liberal for my tastes (and for a lot of other conservatives). I was against the bailouts from day 1. It's not "all of a sudden that it's worth protesting" - the things that we're protesting are recent developments!
Hi, I was just reading these posts and yours stood out for me.
I find this fear of socialism (in evil red font!) amusing. Europe runs on a Socialist model, the result? Excellent social welfare for those who need it and accessible medical care. Noone is dying because of our socialism, there's no panic in the streets, there is, however, a greater access to services. We pay higher taxes but that money dosen't simply disappear down a black hole, it comes back to us in the form of essential services. People do not get turned away from hospitals in Europe, they do in America. Why do Americans hate the idea of government so much? Its your government, noone else's. The idea of this red menace is absurd. Britain is ruled by the socialist Labour party in case you haven't noticed. Denmark and Sweden boast superb quality of life and advanced social models thanks to their socialist governing. Socialism does not have to be such a dirty word.
I sincerely hope this guy dosen't represent the quality of debate on these forums.
There's a private tier, which is affordable. You don't have to be rich.
There's a public tier, which is free (or in some countries, heavily subsidised).
True, there are longer waiting times on the public tier but everyone is still treated. It's a little rich to see an American scold a European because those in free public healthcare have to go on a waiting list for some procedures. If you ain't rich in America, you don't even get a waiting list. You get shown the door. No insurance, not treatment. People actually die because they cannot afford health care. So I'll take my waiting list and be happy with it. Also, the waiting list only applies to some procedures and specialised appointments. You will not die in a queue. I may even buy health insurance, in Europe I do not have to be rich to do that.
17-Year-Old Cancer Survivor Dies After Transplant Is Finally Approved By CIGNA - cbs2.com
Man Dies After Insurance Co. Refuses To Cover Treatment - Health News Story - KMBC Kansas City
BBC NEWS | Americas | Boy's death highlights US health debate
There are waiting lists, for sure. Would I swap the European model in which everyone is treated for the American one in which life saving procedures can be denied because you are too poor to afford insurance? Get real.
I've got the feeling that we're both pulling sensational instances out of the bag to justify our positions. Your examples, like mine, probably do not represent accurately our respective systems. That's the problem with haste and reaching a conclusion before googling. I'm going to stop because I don't think either of us are going to convince the other in the next 45 minutes, I'm not arguing for arguments sake.
I will finish with this small summation of my point:
If I'm poor I get free healthcare, If I fall seriously ill tomorrow I get free healthcare, one thing I never need to worry about is healthcare and what happens when I fall ill.
I wasn't going to continue but considering you have handed me so much evidence to support my point, how could I resist.
From the wikipedia entry:
"Being poor, or even very poor, does not necessarily qualify an individual for Medicaid.[2] It is estimated that approximately 60 percent of poor Americans are not covered by Medicaid."
According to the CMS website, "Medicaid does not provide medical assistance for all poor persons. Even under the broadest provisions of the Federal statute (except for emergency services for certain persons), the Medicaid program does not provide health care services, even for very poor persons, unless they are in one of the designated eligibility groups."
"Typically, poor people who are HIV positive must progress to AIDS (T-cell count less than 200) before they can qualify under the "disabled" category."
That last one is awful.
Listen pal, I'm leaving this. Good luck.
"Bye, don't let the door hit ya."
How old are you?
I disagree with you but I have shown you respect.
Grow up.
I sincerely hope this guy dosen't represent the quality of debate on these forums.
"Now you already stated you were taking your ball and going home, Why are you still here?"
As I said, grow up.
You got what you gave, don't cry about it now. :lol:
Since you ain't leaving as promised. Tell me what do you think about the tax day protests we had here. You know the topic of this thread.
So now you are interested in the topic of the thread?
You responded to his post that wasn't even directed at you. And how did you respond? Oh yeah, laughing about dead Parisians. At least those people didn't die in vain. They have been memorialized by helping you troll a dead thread. :roll:
Why do you feel the need to bully and run new members out of here?
Do you care about this forum?
Is it overpopulated and you are doing us a service?
So he believes in socialism. A lot of people do. It doesn't give you a license to act like a jerk to people.
I sincerely hope this guy dosen't represent the quality of debate on these forums.
Yes, all the pork in the stimulus pkg. It started with protests against "porkulus", lol, and grew from there. People are also angry about the bailouts and wealth redistribution, plus the trillions in the 2010 budget. Just that everything is getting too far-reaching and success is being punished while screw-ups are being rewarded (with our tax money). We're fed up.
Some of the history is here:
Instapundit
Funny....why weren't you protesting against "wealth redistribution" when GWB started taking money from the poor and middle class and "redistributing" it to his wealthy base?
McBlog: Richest 400 people in U.S. increased their wealth by $670 billion under GWB
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