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Well, I was playing devils advocate. I don't really think that as blacks are offered all kinds of assistance to get out of the projects, if only they would apply themselves, but once again that's the white man's education. It's their own damn fault.
As far as latino immigrants go, I had several Mexican friends in San Diego, when I lived there and they would get harassed (in 2000) by whites and by cops. At least whites and blacks speak english (for the most part), whereas it seems that most latinos don't, so I think that's where "do you speak English" thing is coming from. I can imagine that being a latino citizen amidst all of this immigration debate must suck.
NO I dont that was point of the last post.
Mexican is not a race its a nationality
I don't know the precise statistics (I just looked and could only find the following interesting paragraph from some random blog)...
The Becker-Posner Blog: The Black-White Income Differential--Posner's Comment
I don't think it is just a perception. I think that there is a higher percentage of poor blacks compared to total blacks, than poor whites compared to total whites. So I feel there truly is an income gap. But the perception is what would cause people to go huh? if they heard about a NAAWP.
I think it can also be said that while some programs have really helped the advancement of blacks, the military being one of these, there are other programs that don't seemed to have helped at all and they are the ones that cast the black community as a victim. This is where I see the NAACP. Quickest out the gate to point the finger at racism. Weren't they involved in the recent Gates scandal?
I'm not denying that the black underclass is much larger than the white underclass but I submit that the issue is no longer disparity in opportunity and hasn't been for some time. I would submit that the issue is now a problem specific to elements in the black culture that seek to suppress a natural human desire to achieve and advance.
I'm not going to bore you with detailing the obvious culprits like affirmative action. Instead, let me focus on something a little more subtle such as the culture of their churches. Black churches are steeped in racially divisive idealogies such as Black Liberation theology. The whole concept is that blacks are still a suppressed group and need to liberate...and, I don't know about anyone here, but I've never heard of a black man or woman in shackles workin the cotton fields in my time. The entire idea is an affront to the freedom blacks achieved and it impresses upon them an idea that they are victims. That victimhood goes right out the door on Sunday morning and carries over into a feeling of hopelessness when the parishioner shows up to work Monday morning. What should be an encouragement to achieve and rise up has now become a reminder that you're just a victim. So where is the point of ambition? And then external forces like affirmative action to that and it's the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.
Look at it from my POV. I get it from three different directions. I got blacks talking in code with their hand over their mouths, hispanics speaking Spanish and Cajuns speaking French.
My kids speak fluent French. One day, at a Mardi Gras parade, my oldest pulls me aside and told me that some old man just called me an asshole. I was ready to go kick that old dude's ass...lol
I knew that and I don't think I made a reference to Mexican being a race. My understanding is that latino is also not a race. So I guess it isn't racism.
I think that that is all true, but I don't see how you addressed my question. Whites have it all; why would they need advancement? It's blacks who are suffering in racist America.
Then explain why we alongside asians, Pacific islanders and bi/multi-racial people are classified as different races in government data.
so it's ok for them to attack Asians, oppress women and hate gays?
I knew I would get in trouble for playing the devils advocate. I don't really believe that...
I'm actually very willing to believe that blacks suffer both contemporary prejudice and are still suffering from the historical crimes committed against them...however I don't see how either are relevant when considering their own current and frequent abuse against other marginalized groups.
I'm actually very willing to believe that blacks suffer both contemporary prejudice and are still suffering from the historical crimes committed against them...however I don't see how either are relevant when considering their own current and frequent abuse against other marginalized groups.
I have one gg-grandfather that was born on Little Eva Plantation in Nachitoches Parish and another gg-grandfather that was born on Kateland Plantation in Rapides Parish. I haven't suffered a bit. Never collected a dime from welfare and have never been treated special because of my race. Everything that's happened in my adult life has come about because of the decisions that I made. The good and the bad.
That's why I don't buy into the viciticrat BS.
Well I say that's good for you (and genuinely mean it) but I think their arguments that can be made on both sides in that debate. That debate, however, is not relevant to this incident. And that's the point I'm trying to make, these kinds of incidents are outside of the normal debate regarding race relations in America.
I'm not denying that the black underclass is much larger than the white underclass but I submit that the issue is no longer disparity in opportunity and hasn't been for some time. I would submit that the issue is now a problem specific to elements in the black culture that seek to suppress a natural human desire to achieve and advance.
I'm not going to bore you with detailing the obvious culprits like affirmative action. Instead, let me focus on something a little more subtle such as the culture of their churches. Black churches are steeped in racially divisive idealogies such as Black Liberation theology. The whole concept is that blacks are still a suppressed group and need to liberate...and, I don't know about anyone here, but I've never heard of a black man or woman in shackles workin the cotton fields in my time. The entire idea is an affront to the freedom blacks achieved and it impresses upon them an idea that they are victims. That victimhood goes right out the door on Sunday morning and carries over into a feeling of hopelessness when the parishioner shows up to work Monday morning. What should be an encouragement to achieve and rise up has now become a reminder that you're just a victim. So where is the point of ambition? And then external forces like affirmative action to that and it's the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.
I disagree. I don't think they suffer contemporary prejudice and are surely not suffering from the historical crimes committed against them.
I think there is very little prejudice in the white man's world. There is affirmative action culturally so that a company can claim they are an equal opportunity employer. Black's are welcomed in my social circle, although there is only one I know. I am an engineer and blacks don't tend to go for those jobs.
It is on the heads of the blacks to raise themselves up. This culture they have in poorer communities is insane, the gangsta culture, and it includes their attitudes toward other races and gays. It is on them.
To test whether employers might discriminate against job applicants with black-sounding names, associate professors of economics Marianne Bertrand with Chicago's Graduate School of Business and Sendhil Mullainathan with MIT conducted an elaborate experiment. They fabricated resumes for multiple "phantom" job seekers with common black and white names. The professors then sent out nearly 5,000 resumes for 1,300 job openings advertised in newspapers and on online job sites throughout Chicago and Boston.
The results are a bit disturbing, the researchers admit. Applicants with white-sounding names were 50 percent more likely to be contacted for job interviews than those with typical black names. There were no significant differences between the rates at which men and women were contacted.
Now out of curiosity, have you gone to black churches very often?
Out of curiosity, what do I have to do with the thread topic?
Bertrand acknowledged that employers could not conclusively determine the race of a job applicant from a resume. However, she contended that the study clearly showed a bias among employers based on perceptions.
"I believe our study clearly shows that when employers or hiring managers see a name that might indicate race, or at least the applicant's social class, they appear to react negatively to-wards it," Bertrand says.
You made a claim, and I'm asking if you have personal knowledge about the claim, or whether it is second hand knowledge.
Who in their right mind is going to hire a She'niqua or DeShawn?....
Blacks paint their own children into corners with these silly made up names....
I don't see any problem with their names. No one chooses their birth name.
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