At least 4 killed and multiple injured in shooting

[Torus34]

The headline: At least 4 killed and multiple injured in shooting at popular entertainment area in Birmingham, Alabama, police say

The link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/us/birmingham-alabama-shooting-five-points-south/index.html

The lede: At least four people were killed and “dozens” more were injured in a mass shooting in one of the most popular entertainment areas in Birmingham, Alabama, Saturday evening, the Birmingham Police Department said. Just after 11 p.m., “multiple shooters fired multiple shots on a group of people” in the Five Points South area, Birmingham Police Officer Truman Fitzgerald said.

Guns in the news again.

Four more lives lost forever. And once again our laws, their various levels of enforcement, and our social programs were insufficient to prevent this tragedy. Gunshot is one of the leading causes of death among children in the age range 0-17 years in the United States of America. On the same day upward of 40 more deaths probably happened due to gunshot.

Guns in the news.

Again.

Regards. Stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

[Loulit01]

Multiple shooters? A gang thing?

What does a "culture" shooting mean? Race?

 

[bongsaway]

Who is going to be first to post...thoughts and prayers? That should help to stop all this gun violence.

 

[Individual]

Who is going to be first to post...thoughts and prayers? That should help to stop all this gun violence.

Mandatory death penalty might help.

 

[Loulit01]

Mandatory death penalty might help.

Death penalty has proven not to be a deterrent.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The headline: At least 4 killed and multiple injured in shooting at popular entertainment area in Birmingham, Alabama, police say

The link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/us/birmingham-alabama-shooting-five-points-south/index.html

The lede: At least four people were killed and “dozens” more were injured in a mass shooting in one of the most popular entertainment areas in Birmingham, Alabama, Saturday evening, the Birmingham Police Department said. Just after 11 p.m., “multiple shooters fired multiple shots on a group of people” in the Five Points South area, Birmingham Police Officer Truman Fitzgerald said.

Guns in the news again.

Four more lives lost forever. And once again our laws, their various levels of enforcement, and our social programs were insufficient to prevent this tragedy. Gunshot is one of the leading causes of death among children in the age range 0-17 years in the United States of America. On the same day upward of 40 more deaths probably happened due to gunshot.

Guns in the news.

Again.

Regards. Stay safe 'n well 'n un-shot.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Death penalty has proven not to be a deterrent.

But it does have a negative effect on recidivism.

 

[Aristaeus]

But it does have a negative effect on recidivism.

So death penalty for every crime?

 

[Maidenrules29]

Gee, that sure is alot of dead and injured people. But because this was probably a gang shooting there will pretty much be crickets from the MSM. Nothing to see here, folks. "We only feature white, cisgender lone-wolf gunmen with manifestos here on our show".

 

[Individual]

Death penalty has proven not to be a deterrent.

It eliminates repeat offenders, and may deter some. There will always be criminals.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Birmingham Alabama.

Birmingham, Alabama - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Democrat leadership since 1940.

Crime​

Birmingham has a crime rate significantly above the national average.[84] Increasing gang activity has been noted for the spike in crime around the city.[85] In 2022, Birmingham set a modern record with 144 homicides.[86] According to a 2023 study, Birmingham leads the nation's largest cities with the highest cost of crime per capita at $11,392. Its violent crime rate – which includes instances of murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault – was 1,682 per 100,000 residents. Its property crime rate – which includes burglary, larceny, and vehicle theft – was notably higher at 4,173 per 100,000 residents.[87] Also in 2023, Forbes ranked Birmingham the 2nd most dangerous city in the United States.[88]

 

[Noodlegawd]

Who is going to be first to post...thoughts and prayers? That should help to stop all this gun violence.

Any bets on whether hear "ban assault weapons" before "thoughts and prayers"?

 

[Rich2018]

Who is going to be first to post...thoughts and prayers? That should help to stop all this gun violence.

Some Republican.

 

[JMB1911A1]

A little more info showing that this is nothing with to do with guns, but with a violent subculture that has infected the dominant demographic of Montgomery.

Biden’s unwillingness to combat gang violence is a deadly disgrace

The Biden-Harris administration cannot even say "gang violence."

thegunwriter.substack.com

“Four heavily armed gangsters formed a skirmish line of sorts outside of a nightclub in Birmingham, Alabama’s popular entertainment district known as Five Points South Saturday night around 11 p.m., and then sprayed a large crowd with their illegally converted fully automatic 9mm handguns.​

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Four people were killed and 17 were wounded — at least four critically. Police later found more than 100 shell casings on the blood-drenched sidewalk.​

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Investigators determined it was a “targeted hit.” The shooters were after a specific person. The 20 innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire were not even a consideration. The gangsters, who police say were likely paid for the assassination, have not been caught.”​

This is how the 13% of our population who commit 50+% of the violent crime “handle” a dispute.

If this was Hamas, it would probably would have been a suicide bomber yelling “Aloha Snackbar”.

If the Italian mob was running Montgomery, they would have sent a guy up to the target and shot just the target with a .22 behind the ear. No muss, no fuss. No collateral damage.

But the culture that the Democrats pander to pray a crowd with 100+ bullets to try and get one target.

 

[hecatmoggie]

looks to be be black gangs likely using handguns

but dang it lets let violent people out of prison early, ignore the black culture problems, ban assault weapons and make a difference !!

 

[RF667799]

A little more info showing that this is nothing with to do with guns, but with a violent subculture that has infected the dominant demographic of Montgomery.

Biden’s unwillingness to combat gang violence is a deadly disgrace

The Biden-Harris administration cannot even say "gang violence."

thegunwriter.substack.com

“Four heavily armed gangsters formed a skirmish line of sorts outside of a nightclub in Birmingham, Alabama’s popular entertainment district known as Five Points South Saturday night around 11 p.m., and then sprayed a large crowd with their illegally converted fully automatic 9mm handguns.​

​

Four people were killed and 17 were wounded — at least four critically. Police later found more than 100 shell casings on the blood-drenched sidewalk.​

​

Investigators determined it was a “targeted hit.” The shooters were after a specific person. The 20 innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire were not even a consideration. The gangsters, who police say were likely paid for the assassination, have not been caught.”​

This is how the 13% of our population who commit 50+% of the violent crime “handle” a dispute.

If this was Hamas, it would probably would have been a suicide bomber yelling “Aloha Snackbar”.

If the Italian mob was running Montgomery, they would have sent a guy up to the target and shot just the target with a .22 behind the ear. No muss, no fuss. No collateral damage.

But the culture that the Democrats pander to pray a crowd with 100+ bullets to try and get one target.

It isn't 13% of our population committing 50+% of violent crime. It is a much, much smaller portion than that.

 

[Rich2018]

looks to be be black gangs likely using handguns

but dang it lets let violent people out of prison early, ignore the black culture problems, ban assault weapons and make a difference !!

Why so quick to point the finger at African-Americans ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Why so quick to point the finger at African-Americans ?

wasn't it black gangs killing black people in that article ?

if you don't think we have culture problems - you have your head in the sands


murder offenders - disproportionately black https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/

murder victims - disproportionately black https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

most blacks are killed by blacks 94% of black victims were killed by blacks. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

 

[Rich2018]

wasn't it black gangs killing black people in that article ?

Was it ?
I don't see any reference the either the victims, nor the perpetrators, ethnicity.

murder offenders - disproportionately black https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/

murder victims - disproportionately black https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

most blacks are killed by blacks 94% of black victims were killed by blacks. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

So you're using the "Bandwagon" logical fallacy as your defense and not some deep lying prejudice ?

 

[rahl]

Was it ?
I don't see any reference the either the victims, nor the perpetrators, ethnicity.



So you're using the "Bandwagon" logical fallacy as your defense and not some deep lying prejudice ?

No, he’s using actual data.

 

[Rich2018]

looks to be be black gangs likely using handguns

but dang it lets let violent people out of prison early, ignore the black culture problems, ban assault weapons and make a difference !!

To your bigoted eyes perhaps.

 

[JMB1911A1]

To your bigoted eyes perhaps.

Birmingham, Alabama - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

68.12% African-American

 

[rahl]

To your bigoted eyes perhaps.

Data isn’t bigotry.

 

[hecatmoggie]

To your bigoted eyes perhaps.

I've posted the stats .... almost all blacks are killed by other blacks, % wise there are far more blacks killed per capita than whites

culture matters but liberals want to ignore it for political correctness, which is another root problem

 

[Michael McMahon]

Perhaps guns can ironically be selfless if instead of protecting your wife you can still protect other women in the neighbourhood within a mile! So guns at best can limit the bystander effect were everyone viewed as citizen soldiers in need to protect one another. Be careful what you wish for when guns can make intervention much easier!

“Though often unsaid in police reform debates, numerous court precedents have established that cops aren’t obligated to act in the interests of citizens.”
https://prospect.org/justice/police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-public/