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Its such a relief to see this legislation pass.
the sight of all these MPs vainting their social conscience is more than I can stomach. And I have a strong stomach.

The same hypocrites will shortly vote to starve disabled people so that the rich dont pay fair taxes.

Im geneeally in favour of the bill but please save us from political cant.
 
I personally know two people who have taken advantage of Canada's system. They did it at home with their families by their side.

Its a humane approach.

I also know people who chose to fight to the end. Both situations demonstrate courage.
 
All for it.
Colorado passed their Colorado End-of-Life Options Act, which was approved by voters as Proposition 106 in 2016. This law allows eligible, terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live to request and self-administer medication to end their lives. The law also outlines the responsibilities of physicians and other healthcare providers involved in the process.

I think there are 10 states that have such laws and another 15 or so that are looking at similar legislation.
 
KingLeo said:
All for it.
Colorado passed their Colorado End-of-Life Options Act, which was approved by voters as Proposition 106 in 2016. This law allows eligible, terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live to request and self-administer medication to end their lives. The law also outlines the responsibilities of physicians and other healthcare providers involved in the process.

I think there are 10 states that have such laws and another 15 or so that are looking at similar legislation.
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Just got to give a shout-out to my home state. We were the very first of those states and I personally am among the 51% who voted 'Yes' on the initiative back in 1994, and am among the 60% 'No' voters on the repeal in 1997. We came up with the basic foundation on which the other states tweaked their own legislation. https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/lpro/Publications/BB2016OregonDeathwithDignityAct.pdf Vermont is the first state to pass it via the traditional legislative bill, signed by the govt in 2013. https://deathwithdignity.org/news/2024/11/30-milestones-deathwithdignity/ (there is an obvious misprint here. It claims Oregon's 30 yr anniversary on Nov 8 2024 when they mean 1994) as mentioned above.

In 2025 we got rid of the state residency requirement
 
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Medically assisted dying is a brilliant thing.

HOWEVER.

Needs to be very tightly controlled, regulated and considered.

Not every family is... Altruistic.

Bump off Grandma, Grandpa early for a pay day.

You bet your ass.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Medically assisted dying is a brilliant thing.

HOWEVER.

Needs to be very tightly controlled, regulated and considered.

Not every family is... Altruistic.

Bump off Grandma, Grandpa early for a pay day.

You bet your ass.
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Yep.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Medically assisted dying is a brilliant thing.

HOWEVER.

Needs to be very tightly controlled, regulated and considered.

Not every family is... Altruistic.

Bump off Grandma, Grandpa early for a pay day.

You bet your ass.
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Currently a crime, the law does not change that.

Murder for inheritance has been around since we jumped out of the trees.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Who really knows how we will respond when it's our time - just glad this is an option which means family who support you through assisted dying don't get prosecuted for helping.
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That's going to depend on what the 'help' looks like. This is not a euthanasia law. It's physician assisted. this law primarily endorses via prescription. You had better read the fine print if you are a family member. Sure, go get the glass of water. Yes, help open the bottle for your loved one and make sure its within easy reach. But I would be careful how you word any encouragement to take those pills... and I would not pour them into your loved one's hand, or 'help' them getting those pills into the mouth.

Its getting close to a fine line an interested DA might be inclined to delineate in a court room.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Medically assisted dying is a brilliant thing.

HOWEVER.

Needs to be very tightly controlled, regulated and considered.

Not every family is... Altruistic.

Bump off Grandma, Grandpa early for a pay day.

You bet your ass.
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In Canada there are strict controls in place.

Only a physician can administer the medication, otherwise it is manslaughter.

I've buried three friends, two with AIDS in which I agreed with the procedure. The third chose to ride it out. I was too painful to be around.

I have specific instructions with my doc, when I no longer have control of my functions I will fall asleep and not wake up and no one will be the wiser.
 
Fearandloathing said:
In Canada there are strict controls in place.

Only a physician can administer the medication, otherwise it is manslaughter.

I've buried three friends, two with AIDS in which I agreed with the procedure. The third chose to ride it out. I was too painful to be around.

I have specific instructions with my doc, when I no longer have control of my functions I will fall asleep and not wake up and no one will be the wiser.
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Yeah advanced directives are so important bra.
 
KingLeo said:
All for it.
Colorado passed their Colorado End-of-Life Options Act, which was approved by voters as Proposition 106 in 2016. This law allows eligible, terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live to request and self-administer medication to end their lives. The law also outlines the responsibilities of physicians and other healthcare providers involved in the process.

I think there are 10 states that have such laws and another 15 or so that are looking at similar legislation.
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This should be a national thing. If someone wants to end their own life to avoid pain and suffering, there is no reason why it should not be allowed. We put down our pets or animals that are sick or dying and call that humane. Why does that not apply to humans?
 
btthegreat said:
That's going to depend on what the 'help' looks like. This is not a euthanasia law. It's physician assisted. this law primarily endorses via prescription. You had better read the fine print if you are a family member. Sure, go get the glass of water. Yes, help open the bottle for your loved one and make sure its within easy reach. But I would be careful how you word any encouragement to take those pills... and I would not pour them into your loved one's hand, or 'help' them getting those pills into the mouth.

Its getting close to a fine line an interested DA might be inclined to delineate in a court room.
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I understand what you're getting at, what I am referring to is how even getting the family member over to Switzerland in the past for them to go with dignity could lead to your prosecution.

www.bbc.co.uk

Assisted dying: 'I was arrested for taking someone to Dignitas'

Sue Lawford says police were "aggressive" as she spent 19 hours in custody after early hours arrest.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Fearandloathing said:
In Canada there are strict controls in place.

Only a physician can administer the medication, otherwise it is manslaughter.

I've buried three friends, two with AIDS in which I agreed with the procedure. The third chose to ride it out. I was too painful to be around.

I have specific instructions with my doc, when I no longer have control of my functions I will fall asleep and not wake up and no one will be the wiser.
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Interesting. Can't it be self administered by the patient? I mean part of the point here is to do it at home, at a time of your own choosing.
 
btthegreat said:
Interesting. Can't it be self administered by the patient? I mean part of the point here is to do it at home, at a time of your own choosing.
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Yes.

Method 1: a physician or nurse practitioner directly administers a substance that causes death, such as an injection of a drug. This is sometimes called clinician-administered medical assistance in dying.

Method 2: a physician or nurse practitioner provides or prescribes a drug that the eligible person takes themselves, in order to bring about their own death. This is sometimes called self-administered medical assistance in dying.
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Medical assistance in dying: Overview - Canada.ca

What medical assistance in dying is, who is eligible, how to make a request, the process, and who can provide medical assistance in dying.
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca
 
Gordy327 said:
This should be a national thing. If someone wants to end their own life to avoid pain and suffering, there is no reason why it should not be allowed. We put down our pets or animals that are sick or dying and call that humane. Why does that not apply to humans?
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Completely agree with you.
 
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