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Is asceticism really Christian?
That would be a pity.
That would be a pity.
Is asceticism really Christian?
That would be a pity.
There is nothing better for a man than to eat and drink and find enjoyment in his hard work. This too, I have realized, is from the hand of the true God," Ecclesiastes 2:24
And Jesus drank wine.
Why then is it that some Christians think that one should not drink wine?
Some have tried to tell me that the 'wine' was just grape juice, but we both know that's false.
So it is!
Grape juice would not stay grape Juice all year round!
we know that the Roman & Hellenistic East imbibed quite regularly, so I don't buy the 'grape juice' story at all.
Christ’s first miracle of turning water into wine at the wedding at Cana almost certainly involved a fermented beverage. According to Jewish wedding tradition, fermented wine was always served at weddings; if Jesus had provided only grape juice, the master of the feast would have complained. Instead, he said the wine was better than what was previously served; it was apparently a “fine” wine (John 2:10–11).
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Of course, just because Jesus turned water into wine doesn’t prove that He drank the wine at the wedding, but it would have been normal for Him to do so. What it does prove is that Jesus doesn’t condemn drinking wine any more than He condemns eating bread. Sinful people abuse what is not inherently sinful. Bread and wine are not sinful, but gluttony and drunkenness are (Proverbs 23:2; Ephesians 5:18).
I think the question whether Jesus drank wine or grape juice deseves a thread of its own.![]()
Does it sound to you like that is what God expects of us? No, He wants us to enjoy the gift of life He has given us...
There is nothing better for a man than to eat and drink and find enjoyment in his hard work. This too, I have realized, is from the hand of the true God," Ecclesiastes 2:24
Is asceticism really Christian?
That would be a pity.
Wine - of course!eace
Don't they have monks where you come from?
Monks are special cases.
And anyway, German monks were great brewers of beer and makers of wine - and some still are.
Wine is there to gladden the heart of man!![]()
Wine is there to gladden the heart of man!![]()