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Arm Britain: UK citizens fighting for their gun rights

Too bad it won't make a difference in that nation...but maybe.
 
I wont show my support. The britons shall live as they wish, and I wont try to interfere.
 
I'm confused as well, if a bunch of Americans join a British group to the point where there's more Americans then Britons it wot be effective
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I'm confused as well, if a bunch of Americans join a British group to the point where there's more Americans then Britons it wot be effective
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This is an international forum...
 
Jerry said:
This is an international forum...
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Yes it is. One where any non-American making any kind of critical comment on US gun culture gets told to butt out pretty quickly, and is referred to as a eurofag thereafter.

You can sign any petition you like, I can guarantee you that the percentage of support you'd get for making UK gun laws more like American laws would be in low single figures.
 
All the more reason to get the word out.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I'm confused as well, if a bunch of Americans join a British group to the point where there's more Americans then Britons it wot be effective
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Absolutely, more Britons need to join. The problem is that all other firearm organisation in the UK preach obedience to government and gun laws claiming they can still shoot, don't rock the boat. As licences are completely at police discretion, the vast majority believe that rocking the boat will result in a refusal of a licence.

You have never in your life seen so much fear of speaking out. When the very organisations that should be leading opposition are two busy begging government to make getting a licence easier and licking boots what chance do they have? They will tear apart anyone or anything that threatens their perceived safety or exposes their cowardice.

You should note that situation is developing in the USA as firearm organisations are not organising members opposition to gun control or leading the way.
 
Jerry said:
Join and show your support:

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Goodness me, there's quite a lot of work to do there to endeavour to gain some interest when you consider the forum you linked to only has an average of 15 posts a day, only 1 new topic daily and there's only been 19 users online today. Sounds like a busy place! The facebook page to Arm UK citizens only has 1007 likes, there's 64 million people living in the UK and approx 70% of those are over 25. I would suggest you have quite a bit of work to do to garner some interest.

You better get cracking then, I guess we won't have the pleasure of seeing you around so much anymore, you will be super busy with your activism! Good luck Jerry, I hope you have lots of free time to devote to your new cause, you're going to need it :lol:
 

The real battle is to get enough firearm organisation members to kick their firearm organisation officials in the balls to build some backbone and lead the way.

Not to worry the same problem is developing in the USA where firearm organisations take no interest in gun control or the future of the organisation. They do not ensure that their membership at least do not become victims of gun control propaganda.

The result of that can be seen in the current level of support for back ground checks by firearm owners.
 
Jerry said:
All the more reason to get the word out.
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Then you'd support Britons "getting the word out" about what they believe are the US's stupid gun laws, right?

Jer... your opinion on Great Britain's feelings about guns is as relevant as theirs on our feelings about guns. NIL.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Then you'd support Britons "getting the word out" about what they believe are the US's stupid gun laws, right?

Jer... your opinion on Great Britain's feelings about guns is as relevant as theirs on our feelings about guns. NIL.
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UK has some serious lesson Americans should be taking note of.

For example why did firearm owners and organisations lose?
 
Crimefree said:
UK has some serious lesson Americans should be taking note of.

For example why did firearm owners and organisations lose?
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No, the UK has a different culture than the US. They don't need to take lessons from us any more than we do from them.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Then you'd support Britons "getting the word out" about what they believe are the US's stupid gun laws, right?
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Of course not. I've taken a side on this issue. I have shutting down brits who hate american gun laws down to a science. I have no interest in fair play, I have an interest in winning.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
No, the UK has a different culture than the US. They don't need to take lessons from us any more than we do from them.
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Ahh but we do take lessons from them. We cite the UK and Australia and Japan and Canada and Russia etc routinely.
 
Jerry said:
Of course not. I've taken a side on this issue. I have shutting down brits who hate american gun laws down to a science. I have no interest in fair play, I have an interest in winning.
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Like I said, their opinion on US gun laws is equal to your opinion on UK gun laws. Valueless.
 
Jerry said:
Ahh but we do take lessons from them. We cite the UK and Australia and Japan and Canada and Russia etc routinely.
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Who is this "we"?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Who is this "we"?
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Everyone you've ever seen on this website, pro and con, quote an international study, meta-study, comparison, or statistic on guns.

In short, nearly every participant in nearly every thread in the Gun Control forum.
 
Jerry said:
Everyone you've ever seen on this website, pro and con, quote an international study, meta-study, comparison, or statistic on guns.

In short, nearly every participant in nearly every thread in the Gun Control forum.
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Not I, so I am not "we".
 
Jerry said:
To you. Not to them, not me, not others.
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No, actually it is valueless. The culture in the two places is different. You have as much impact on UK opinions on guns as they do on your opinion on guns.
 
Jerry said:
All the more reason to get the word out.
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I can assure you that the likelihood of British people being persuaded by the efforts of American gun-nuts to change public opinion on the matter is as great as the likelihood of Europeans to persuade Americans to ban them. Not that I'm aware of any Europeans even trying to do so. Different cultures, different attitudes. Hell, even the British police are against carrying firearms themselves.
 
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The sites I linked to are not American.

Try again.
 
Jerry said:
The sites I linked to are not American.

Try again.
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A couple of Facebook groups and a forum with 2,000 members (0.004% of the population) isn't really much of a groundswell, now is it?
 
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