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Arizona Mom Who Lost Son to Illegal Immigrant Explains Why She Endorsed Donald Trump

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A 32 year-old Mesa police officer, Sgt. Brandon Mendoza was murdered by an intoxicated criminal illegal alien who was driving the wrong way down a freeway. At the time of the accident, the criminal alien had a blood alcohol level that was three times the legal limit and had been driving the wrong way for more than 35 miles on four different freeways. Although the alien had been convicted of previous crimes, he had not been deported.

Donald Trump is “the first person that I ever felt gave a damn about what’s happening to us,” Mary Ann Mendoza told Breitbart News ahead of her forthcoming appearance at Trump’s rally in Arizona.

AZ Mom Who Lost Son to Illegal Explains Why She Endorsed Trump over Cruz
 
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i remember this, after the accident the news media didn't even want to say he was an illegal and have already been deported before.
 
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Wall!!
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It also holds true in states with large populations of illegal residents. A 2008 report by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants are underrepresented in the prison system. “The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,” the study concludes. “The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population.”

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime - WSJ
 
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It also holds true in states with large populations of illegal residents. A 2008 report by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants are underrepresented in the prison system. “The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,” the study concludes. “The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population.”

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime - WSJ

Deflection efforts noted.
 
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Deflection efforts noted.
The fact is that aliens commit far fewer crimes in the US than the native population.

Sorry if the reality disturbs yer nativist fantasies.
 
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It also holds true in states with large populations of illegal residents. A 2008 report by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants are underrepresented in the prison system. “The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,” the study concludes. “The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population.”

The Mythical Connection Between Immigrants and Crime - WSJ

That's 17% more crime that happened that shouldn't have happened if they weren't here illegally.
 
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The fact is that aliens commit far fewer crimes in the US than the native population.

Sorry if the reality disturbs yer nativist fantasies.

So then everyone should ignore the fact that if these illegal immigrants weren't in the country in the first place there would be 0 crimes committed by illegal immigrants? That's the point and your trying to deflect.
 
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That's 17% more crime that happened that shouldn't have happened if they weren't here illegally.
The math doesn't quite work that way, since it includes legal immigrants.....but then, folks who deal in absolutes are usually bad at math....and logic.
 
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A 32 year-old Mesa police officer, Sgt. Brandon Mendoza was murdered by an intoxicated criminal illegal alien who was driving the wrong way down a freeway. At the time of the accident, the criminal alien had a blood alcohol level that was three times the legal limit and had been driving the wrong way for more than 35 miles on four different freeways. Although the alien had been convicted of previous crimes, he had not been deported.

Donald Trump is “the first person that I ever felt gave a damn about what’s happening to us,” Mary Ann Mendoza told Breitbart News ahead of her forthcoming appearance at Trump’s rally in Arizona.

AZ Mom Who Lost Son to Illegal Explains Why She Endorsed Trump over Cruz
now only illegal immigrants commit crime and the others never ? illegal immigrant ,I understand what you mean after hosting millions of refugees but anyone can kill someone in a traffic accident.it is not about immigrants.Using your son's death for a money boss to get elected president doesnt seem to be sincere to me.


what Mendosa says ,from the link ( she really never sounds like a moron!

'Mendoza said that, by contrast, Ted Cruz is “not somebody I can trust,” adding:

He’s not steadfast in his word. When you have big money backing you and you want the presidency as bad as he does, you’re obviously going to do what you need to do in order to made good on your promises to the people who backed you and made it possible for you to get into the office.

“Big money is backing Cruz, and he’s going to become a puppet to those people directing him [to do] what they want,” she explained.

and what about jerky trump? he seems to be using people's loss to get elected


'I’ve had nobody; none of my senators in my state have reached out to me. None. And this was a very high profile killing; it was on the news for two weeks here. … None of my senators have reached out to me. None of the representatives have. Nobody has. … So when Donald Trump came through [Arizona] and actually invited me to speak at his rally, and I was able to meet with him, that’s the first person that I ever felt gave a damn about what’s happening to us.
 
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The math doesn't quite work that way, since it includes legal immigrants.....but then, folks who deal in absolutes are usually bad at math....and logic.

And that somehow nullifies the point about illegals....how? So the number is a bit different. Big whoop. Statement still stands.
 
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now only illegal immigrants commit crime and the others never ?

Bit of a point here. When we accept someone into this country via legal means we have an obligation to accept the responsibility that they may very well commit crimes. This goes for native folks also. This is not so for illegal aliens. So your point here is more of a deflection than anything else. Not to mention Mendoza isn't talking about legal immigration. She's talking about illegal immigration. Two very separate subjects. So its a bit of a strawman.
 
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And that somehow nullifies the point about illegals....how? So the number is a bit different. Big whoop. Statement still stands.
Yer falling back into an argument that ends in the removal of "illegal" aliens. It isn't a workable, real solution....so no, ultimately, it doesn't "stand".
 
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Wall!!
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Rather than talking about putting up a wall, make it possible for Mexicans to come to the US legally with a work permit, and then, while they’re working and earning here, they’d pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. They can cross. Open the borders both ways.
 
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Rather than talking about putting up a wall, make it possible for Mexicans to come to the US legally with a work permit, and then, while they’re working and earning here, they’d pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. They can cross. Open the borders both ways.

That exists now and has always existed.
 
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Rather than talking about putting up a wall, make it possible for Mexicans to come to the US legally with a work permit, and then, while they’re working and earning here, they’d pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. They can cross. Open the borders both ways.

Since you're a European it's no surprise that you don't know what you're talking about. The illegal immigrants don't want permits. They want to just come here and get benefits they aren't entitled to.
 
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Yer falling back into an argument that ends in the removal of "illegal" aliens. It isn't a workable, real solution....so no, ultimately, it doesn't "stand".

You're ignoring that if there were no illegal immigrants there wouldn't be crime commited by illegal immigrants. What part of "illegal immigrants should not be in this country" are you having difficulty understanding?
 
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You know why they're in your country, dontcha. Because some wealthy business owners make big bucks off of cheap labour, that's why. You want to solve the problem, you need to address the cause, not the symptom. But that'll never happen, will it. Easier to double-down on what's not working and let the status quo continue.
 
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You're ignoring that if there were no illegal immigrants there wouldn't be crime commited by illegal immigrants. What part of "illegal immigrants should not be in this country" are you having difficulty understanding?
try reading this again:

Yer falling back into an argument that ends in the removal of "illegal" aliens. It isn't a workable, real solution....so no, ultimately, it doesn't "stand".
 
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Since you're a European it's no surprise that you don't know what you're talking about. The illegal immigrants don't want permits. They want to just come here and get benefits they aren't entitled to.
If they've paid into social security at all, one benefit usually not mentioned is a social security pension for undocumented immigrants when they retire!
 
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You know why they're in your country, dontcha. Because some wealthy business owners make big bucks off of cheap labour, that's why. You want to solve the problem, you need to address the cause, not the symptom. But that'll never happen, will it. Easier to double-down on what's not working and let the status quo continue.
The status quo is not a pathway to citizenship, either.
 
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